Two for the newbies, or anyone else

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Judtech

A1 threw a bullet pass that B2 deflected (off his noggin) and into the basket. There was about 5 sec. left in the game. Crew Chief said don't count it.

Why not count it? A live ball went into the basket. In this case you don't have any complicating factors like the the horn sounding to end the period, or a foul. This is almost about as simple as a play involving the ball going into the wrong basket that you can get. It would count at either end of the court, no matter who's head the ball deflected off of. Not pretty, but count the goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7dAmWnRlFY

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why not count it? A live ball went into the basket. In this case you don't have any complicating factors like the the horn sounding to end the period, or a foul. This is almost about as simple as a play involving the ball going into the wrong basket that you can get. It would count at either end of the court, no matter who's head the ball deflected off of. Not pretty, but count the goal.

YouTube - basketball shot off the head

They did NOT count it. The R was a very veteran official,and IMO has an oversized ego, the U1 was a younger guy and a college official and the U2 was a "crusty verteran". The U1 pointed out that there was time on the clock and no "extenuating circumstances". The R came up with a legal shot attempt line of reasoning, before pulling out the "I've done this longer than you, don't question me card" and waving off the bucket. As the U1 is a friend of mine, I am glad to see that his career has moved up as he has gotten a larger college schedule (which also means I can save on gas by carpooling!!!). I am also glad to see that the R has been picked up and dropped by 3 seperate college leagues.

JR Wouldn't that make a need for TWO types of blue font?!?!? And I will put my rules knowledge up against your reading comprehension any day of the week! (Except for this coming Thursday, I have a full schedule!!)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

They did NOT count it. The R was a very veteran official,and IMO has an oversized ego, the U1 was a younger guy and a college official and the U2 was a "crusty verteran". The U1 pointed out that there was time on the clock and no "extenuating circumstances". The R came up with a legal shot attempt line of reasoning, before pulling out the "I've done this longer than you, don't question me card" and waving off the bucket. As the U1 is a friend of mine, I am glad to see that his career has moved up as he has gotten a larger college schedule (which also means I can save on gas by carpooling!!!). I am also glad to see that the R has been picked up and dropped by 3 seperate college leagues.

That's not a controversy, the R kicked it and was an a$$ in the process. To me, for it to be controversy he'd have had to at least have some valid reasoning.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Judtech

A1 threw a bullet pass that deflected off his noggin ...

YouTube - basketball kid hit in head

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

A1 shoots a three. While the ball is in the air, B1 fouls A2. The shot then goes in. Team A is in the bonus. What should happen? What, if anything, would be different if A1 was fouled on the shot prior to B1 fouling A2 but everything else was the same?

Nice twist.

Isn't this listed as a 6-7-Exception where the ball doesn't become dead because A1 is in the act of shooting?

The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne
shooter returns to the floor, when:
c. Article 7 occurs by any opponent of a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is
in the act of shooting) before the foul occurred, provided time did not expire before
the ball was in flight. The trying motion must be continuous and begins after the ball
comes to rest in the player’s hand(s) on a try or touches the hand(s) on a tap, and
is completed when the ball is clearly in flight. The trying motion may include arm,
foot or body movements used by the player when throwing the ball at his/her basket.