Coming in on partners call

[Jurassic Referee]

You don't come in to change the call. You come in to give your partner your info as to what you saw. Then it's up to the original caller to decide what to do. If he is sure he had the call right, he'll say "thanks but no thanks". If he has doubt, he'll go with you. I remember that play and that's just about what happened imo.

OOB calls aren't judgment calls like fouls. We gotta try to get every single one of those calls right. And in a tournament like this, missing a key OOB call as an official could mean watching the next round of games on tv.

That is one call that absolutely has to be pre-gamed as to helping each other out.

Btw, as for the coach going ballistic, he had to. I think that it's some kinda prerequisite in the coach's manual.

[Nevadaref]

I recall the play quite well. There was 15.9 seconds left in the game. Xavier was inbounding following a 3pt goal by Pitt and leading 69-66. The pass was made towards the Pitt bench and was tipped by the Pitt defender. It went OOB on the sideline into the Pitt bench. The C, Antonio Petty, came in from near the end of the scorer's table with a strong signal in favor of Pitt. John Cahill then came over from the Trail position on the end line and spoke with Petty, who changed his call and pointed the other way.

Cahill got the call right, and in my opinion it will cause him to advance to next weekend.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I recall the play quite well. There was 15.9 seconds left in the game. Xavier was inbounding following a 3pt goal by Pitt and leading 69-66. The pass was made towards the Pitt bench and was tipped by the Pitt defender. It went OOB on the sideline into the Pitt bench. The C, Antonio Petty, came in from near the end of the scorer's table with a strong signal in favor of Pitt. John Cahill then came over from the Trail position on the end line and spoke with Petty, who changed his call and pointed the other way.

Cahill got the call right, and in my opinion it will cause him to advance to next weekend.

Exactly.

No one will remember that the C called one way only to have the T provide info to get it right....and they did get it right. The replays clearly showed that they got it right.

If they didn't get it right and Pitt made a 3 pointer to tie and eventually won, it may have become the most talked about call of the weekend....it wasn't even a close call, the C was just not in the right spot to see it (and was probably in as good of a spot as they could have been...closer wouldn't have improved the angle).


Great teamwork.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I recall the play quite well. There was 15.9 seconds left in the game. Xavier was inbounding following a 3pt goal by Pitt and leading 69-66. The pass was made towards the Pitt bench and was tipped by the Pitt defender. It went OOB on the sideline into the Pitt bench. The C, Antonio Petty, came in from near the end of the scorer's table with a strong signal in favor of Pitt. John Cahill then came over from the Trail position on the end line and spoke with Petty, who changed his call and pointed the other way.

Cahill got the call right, and in my opinion it will cause him to advance to next weekend.

The particular angle we had from our livingrooms was also very good as we saw it pretty much from the same angle as Cahill. I thought the call was pretty obvious from his angle and he did a good job bringing it to Petty's attention.

One for the good guys!

[rockyroad]

There was another game on Sunday where the exact opposite happened. Call was made, partner ran in and gave info, calling official (I think it was the T) hit his whistle and pointed again - the same direction he had pointed before.

All you can do is provide information. If partner wants to change call, that's up to him/her. My personal take on this is that I do not go running in, tooting my whistle 5 or 6 times. I tell my partners in pregame that if I have info for them, I will take a step or two towards them and make eye contact. If they then ask me, I will go in and give the info. If they don't want my info, they either shake their head at me or don't make eye contact. And away we go...

[bradfordwilkins]

I think if you have 100% knowledge, no question, absolute knowledge, you have to go to your partner and get the call right.

If you have anything less than the above, let him have it.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

There was another game on Sunday where the exact opposite happened. Call was made, partner ran in and gave info, calling official (I think it was the T) hit his whistle and pointed again - the same direction he had pointed before.

All you can do is provide information. If partner wants to change call, that's up to him/her. My personal take on this is that I do not go running in, tooting my whistle 5 or 6 times. I tell my partners in pregame that if I have info for them, I will take a step or two towards them and make eye contact. If they then ask me, I will go in and give the info. If they don't want my info, they either shake their head at me or don't make eye contact. And away we go...

I like that Rock.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You don't come in to change the call. You come in to give your partner your info as to what you saw. Then it's up to the original caller to decide what to do. If he is sure he had the call right, he'll say "thanks but no thanks". If he has doubt, he'll go with you. I remember that play and that's just about what happened imo.

OOB calls aren't judgment calls like fouls. We gotta try to get every single one of those calls right. And in a tournament like this, missing a key OOB call as an official could mean watching the next round of games on tv.

That is one call that absolutely has to be pre-gamed as to helping each other out.

Btw, as for the coach going ballistic, he had to. I think that it's some kinda prerequisite in the coach's manual.

Brain fart regarding changing call wording...........of course