Partners help

[kmref]

In a 3-person crew... the ball goes out-of-bounds on baseline and the Lead is wide and does not know the direction. The Lead asks the Center for help. If the Center does not have it does the Lead ask the Trail for help or go right to the AP? I have been told both ways. Any ideas?

[mick]

Originally posted by kmref
In a 3-person crew... the ball goes out-of-bounds on baseline and the Lead is wide and does not know the direction. The Lead asks the Center for help. If the Center does not have it does the Lead ask the Trail for help or go right to the AP? I have been told both ways. Any ideas?

kmref,
If you have your "five up" and you are looking for help, but the Center doesn't have the call, then look at Trail.
Trust that your partners will not guess and that they will only give you a direction if they actually saw it.
With a 3-whistle crew, there is an excellent chance that the call will be made, or not..., properly.
mick

[Mlancaster]

No excuse for the C NOT to give you a direction whether he/she knows for sure or not. This is simple game management. Using the A/P in this case shows the crowd that the officials are not watching the game.
If the Lead looks up for help and does not get any, then he should show a direction and move on quickly. If a coach questions the delay, simply say that you wanted to make sure that the C did not see something differently.
I am sure that some of you may feel that the A/P is the right way to go, and by rule you are correct, but you do nothing more than open a can of worms using the A/P in this case.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Mlancaster
No excuse for the C NOT to give you a direction whether he/she knows for sure or not. This is simple game management. Using the A/P in this case shows the crowd that
the officials are not watching the game.
If the Lead looks up for help and does not get any, then he should show a direction and move on quickly. If a coach questions the delay, simply say that you wanted to make sure that the C did not see something differently.
I am sure that some of you may feel that the A/P is the right way to go, and by rule you are correct, but you do nothing more than open a can of worms using the A/P in this case.

I agree with what you say here but I'll pick a small nit.
Instead of saying "Using the A/P in this case shows the
crowd that the officials are not watching the game."
you might have said "Using the A/P in this case gives the
impression that the officials are not watching the game".[/b]

[Mlancaster]

Good nit, Dan Ref. I'll buy that!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Mlancaster
Good nit, Dan Ref.

I couldn't agree more. I've always said that Dan is a good nit.

Chuck

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I couldn't agree more. I've always said that Dan is a good nit.

Chuck

uhmmmm...thanks...i think...?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Mlancaster
No excuse for the C NOT to give you a direction whether he/she knows for sure or not.

Huh?

So, if I'm at C and I don't who the ball goes off, I'm supposed to give a signal anyway?

[ChuckElias]

Wow, Dan, you jumped all over that!! I'm impressed. We must be on at the same time. But I don't see you on AIM. Avoiding me?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Wow, Dan, you jumped all over that!! I'm impressed. We must be on at the same time. But I don't see you on AIM. Avoiding me?

Nah, not avoiding you, just happened to wander by at the right time. Watch the IU/MD game? Quite an ending!

[just another ref]

For every call there is an example of a coach's
narrow-mindedness. (scientific term) Years ago, 8th grade games, my partner doesn't show up, so the varsity coach calls the games with me. Ball goes out of bounds on his side of the court. No call. I point at him. He shrugs. I, without hesitation, point and signal visitors ball. Home coach: "What? You can't call that! If you're not sure you have to go to the arrow."
We discussed it later and I told him that I was "pretty sure" but it was right in front of my partner so I gave him first shot at it.
The question is if I signal home's ball does the coach say one word? duh

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I couldn't agree more. I've always said that Dan is a good nit.

Chuck

He is a good wit,too.

Ergo.....

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

He is a good wit,too.

Ergo.....

Ha. Ha. Ha.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]

Ha. Ha. Ha. [/B][/QUOTE]

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Ha. Ha. Ha. [/B]

[/B][/QUOTE]

Oh man, you are getting too good at this, I can barely keep up!

Here's to ya buddy!