Wrong basket

[Johnny Ringo]

Jump ball goes to A1 in his backcourt.

A1 dribbles towards the wrong bucket and throws towards the basket (attempt). The ball does not go in and A1 gets the rebound. A1 then begins to dribble back towards his frontcourt realizing his wrongdoing.

legal play? Or do we have some sort of violation?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Jump ball goes to A1 in his backcourt.

A1 dribbles towards the wrong bucket and throws towards the basket (attempt). The ball does not go in and A1 gets the rebound. A1 then begins to dribble back towards his frontcourt realizing his wrongdoing.

legal play? Or do we have some sort of violation?

Does 'gets the rebound' mean it caromed directly off the backboard, or, it first bounced on the floor?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Jump ball goes to A1 in his backcourt.

A1 dribbles towards the wrong bucket and throws towards the basket (attempt). The ball does not go in and A1 gets the rebound. A1 then begins to dribble back towards his frontcourt realizing his wrongdoing.

legal play? Or do we have some sort of violation?

Illegal dribble violation.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Does 'gets the rebound' mean it caromed directly off the backboard, or, it first bounced on the floor?

Doesn't matter.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Does 'gets the rebound' mean it caromed directly off the backboard, or, it first bounced on the floor?

Same thing.

[budjones05]

Illegal dribble

[Johnny Ringo]

Basically, A1 took a shot attempt... everyone was yelling NO, NO - Wrong Way!

A1 realizes this, gets the rebound after it missed. Grabbed the ball and strated to dribble back towards his F/C.

I thought this could be called a double dribble. Because the shot is not consider a legal try since it was the wrong basket, therefore you have an illegal dribble.

All of the officials I have spoken with in the local association said this was fine and I still was not sure - which is why I posted here.

Is this supported in the Rule Book or Case Book.

Thanks!

[APG]

4.15.4 Situation C

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Basically, A1 took a shot attempt... everyone was yelling NO, NO - Wrong Way!

A1 realizes this, gets the rebound after it missed. Grabbed the ball and strated to dribble back towards his F/C.

I thought this could be called a double dribble. Because the shot is not consider a legal try since it was the wrong basket, therefore you have an illegal dribble.

All of the officials I have spoken with in the local association said this was fine and I still was not sure - which is why I posted here.

Is this supported in the Rule Book or Case Book.

Thanks!

Yes, it's an illegal dribble. Any game MS and up it should be called.

[Johnny Ringo]

Is my reasoning correct? These guys may argue and one of them is the assignor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Is my reasoning correct? These guys may argue and one of them is the assignor.

Not exactly.

The ball hitting the opponent's backboard is the same as the ball hitting the floor. (You'll find that statement (or something substantially close to it) in the rules book).

So, dribble, followed by hold, followed by throwing the ball against the backboard, followed by touch is the same as dribble, hold, dribble.

No one would have trouble calling the second a violation; they shouldn't have any trouble calling the first a violation.

You can also point out the case play mentioned in this thread, and the dfinition of "try" (specifically "at your own basket.")

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Is my reasoning correct? These guys may argue and one of them is the assignor.

Given the rarity of the situation, I would seriously consider the merits of dropping the issue if those with whom you are arguing have any say in your assignments.

At the very least, you would need to approach them with tact.

[Johnny Ringo]

Pefect. Thanks Bob ... one more, but am I correct in saying that you can't have a legal try at your opponent's basket and that adds to why you can't get a rebound and begin to dribble again?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Pefect. Thanks Bob ... one more, but am I correct in saying that you can't have a legal try at your opponent's basket and that adds to why you can't get a rebound and begin to dribble again?

Yes, the same concept that precludes a shooting foul in this situation.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Given the rarity of the situation, I would seriously consider the merits of dropping the issue if those with whom you are arguing have any say in your assignments.

At the very least, you would need to approach them with tact.

A good way to approach is to have your Rule & Case book with you then ask for help, "understanding" the way the rule and case play are written. Then ask how to reconcile the play described with the rule & case book. Be ready to ask additional "directed" questions that leads them to the correct solution. Be sure to thank them for "helping you understand" the rule and case book better.