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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 05:28pm
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..... violation doesn't necessarily have to be in PCA.
Nothing has to be only in your PCA, but if you make a traveling call across the floor six feet in front of your partner it makes the crew look bad, even if the call is correct. If you make this call and you are wrong, it is totally unacceptable.

Solution: Trust your partner(s) and concentrate on your own area.

If you see an elephant in your partners area, make the call. If you see an insect, leave it alone.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 05:55pm
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If you see an elephant in your partners area, make the call.
What if the elephant had LGP?
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 05:58pm
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What if the elephant had LGP?
Then it's a travel.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 05:59pm
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Working 3-person Saturday afternoon. Two good partners. I'm the L tableside near the end of the game. Dribbler runs defender right into a blind screen -- time and distance not an issue as the screener was stationary for a long, long time -- and looking through the back of the screener peripherally, it looked like the defender planted the screener.

But I had two partners looking right at it and, well, I trust them.

In the locker room, both said how the girl embellished the contact and actually smacked her hands on the floor to try to draw a call from both of them.

Now, what if I saw this as an elephant and jumped in -- to "save the day."

There's a reason we don't reach very often and are willing to allow a partner to be wrong rather than jumping in ourselves: Who's to say our view of it is the *right* one?
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 06:27pm
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Now, what if I saw this as an elephant and jumped in -- to "save the day."
Sounds like a really small elephant. The rule only applies to full grown African elephants.*







*Indian elephants are smaller.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 06:50pm
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*Indian elephants are smaller.
And their ears aren't shaped like Africa.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:15pm
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Set up a scrimmage/practice game/kiddie game and schedule this official to work.
Get the two coaches on board with the following plan ahead of time. You arrange for a time when the official is ball-watching outside of his PCA and then you have two players in his area start an altercation. Could be as simple as having one kid go to the ground holding his face and yelling. Have a bunch of other people holler, "He punched him! Didn't you see that, ref? It was right next to you."

This individual needs to understand why it is important to watch his primary area. Until a severe off-ball situation happens there, he won't grasp the concept.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:29pm
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Set up a scrimmage/practice game/kiddie game and schedule this official to work.
Get the two coaches on board with the following plan ahead of time. You arrange for a time when the official is ball-watching outside of his PCA and then you have two players in his area start an altercation. Could be as simple as having one kid go to the ground holding his face and yelling. Have a bunch of other people holler, "He punched him! Didn't you see that, ref? It was right next to you."

This individual needs to understand why it is important to watch his primary area. Until a severe off-ball situation happens there, he won't grasp the concept.
I've had two recurring fantasies while watching two ball watchers work a JV game in front of us.

The first fantasy is that I'm the coach of one of the teams and I use the fact that they're ball watchers to get away with everything I possibly could.

The other fantasy is that I'm playing in a rec game with those ball watchers working and use my knowledge to get away with anything *I* want to. I'd probably limit myself to quick pushes in the back on rebounds and just manhandling the post player, though.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:46pm
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Trust your partner and concentrate on your own area. If you see an elephant in your partners area, make the call. If you see an insect, leave it alone.
"If you see an elephant in your partners area, make the call. If you see an insect, leave it alone." © 2010 just another ref
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 10:03pm
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"If you see an elephant in your partners area, make the call. If you see an insect, leave it alone." © 2010 just another ref
This is not original. I stole it. I thought it came from here and everybody knew it.
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