Most common mistake by refs

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

I will say that I am sometimes unsure on the spot for a throw-in, particularly when a violation or foul is midway between the lane and the arc, if it's sideline or endline.

It would be more helpful if everything inside the arc would go baseline, but mainly you just have to look, make a judgment, and designate the spot. When I work with a partner who doesn't give a spot on a foul or violation, I will go to where I think it is coming in and will try to get the partner to verify. If I can't, I use my best judgment. It's one of my pet peeves.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It would be more helpful if everything inside the arc would go baseline, but mainly you just have to look, make a judgment, and designate the spot. When I work with a partner who doesn't give a spot on a foul or violation, I will go to where I think it is coming in and will try to get the partner to verify. If I can't, I use my best judgment. It's one of my pet peeves.

Hence, why I brought it up back at Post #8.

It's actually one of the few times I might blow my whistle more than once - when I want to get my partner's attention and show him OVER THERE, not where you are now. Where I'm pointing (and pointed to earlier)! And, I'm only going to do this if my P is off by a lot (like when they're on the endline when it should be on the sideline or he's near the free throw lane extended and it should be near the corner).

[Rich]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Hence, why I brought it up back at Post #8.

It's actually one of the few times I might blow my whistle more than once - when I want to get my partner's attention and show him OVER THERE, not where you are now. Where I'm pointing (and pointed to earlier)! And, I'm only going to do this if my P is off by a lot (like when they're on the endline when it should be on the sideline or he's near the free throw lane extended and it should be near the corner).

The thing that aggravates me is when officials go to the spot they're already at just cause it's easier for them. Like when it's obvious we should go sideline and they go endline cause they're already standing there. Or when the throw-in should be opposite side of the lane and they don't go cause they would have to switch sides....

And when I make a call and designate a spot, I expect we go to that spot. If not, I will tweet my whistle and put the administering official there....

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Or when the throw-in should be opposite side of the lane and they don't go cause they would have to switch sides...

Yep, I'm also not a big fan of the administering official bouncing the ball under the basket across the lane so they don't have to walk a l l t h e w a y over to the player and they can stay where they are.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Yep, I'm also not a big fan of the administering official bouncing the ball under the basket across the lane so they don't have to walk a l l t h e w a y over to the player and they can stay where they are.

We don't do it in HS games, but I'd have no problem if we incorporated that mechanic. I can manage a throw-in just as easily "tossing across."

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

We don't do it in HS games, but I'd have no problem if we incorporated that mechanic. I can manage a throw-in just as easily "tossing across."

Understand. My only real issue with it is when I think my partner is going to cross over to the spot and hand the ball and as the new L I cross over and then they bounce the ball across the lane and I have to go back. I just feel silly.

Could probably pre-game it, but it doesn't come up that much.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The thing that aggravates me is when officials go to the spot they're already at just cause it's easier for them. Like when it's obvious we should go sideline and they go endline cause they're already standing there. Or when the throw-in should be opposite side of the lane and they don't go cause they would have to switch sides....

And when I make a call and designate a spot, I expect we go to that spot. If not, I will tweet my whistle and put the administering official there....

On my board the vets running the classes for the 2nd yr. refs trying to make the board literally POUNDED into our heads the need for throw-ins to take place from the proper spot. Aside from it being a rule, they pointed out how an incorrect throw-in spot can present a significant advantage/disadvantage to either the offense or defense depending on the situation.
Our JV game evaluations by the V officials has a section just on throw-ins:

Did we designate the correct spot when calling a violation
Did we indicate the throw-in spot to our P when calling a non-shooting foul
before we reported to the table.
Eye contact with P prior to putting ball in play that we're at the right spot
Communication during T/Os as to throw-in spot and is it a spot throw-in or can they run the line.
Etc, etc, etc. Its a major POE with our board. It's now something i just do automatically every time....even at the rec level (which drives some of my P's nuts).

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

On my board the vets running the classes for the 2nd yr. refs trying to make the board literally POUNDED into our heads the need for throw-ins to take place from the proper spot. Aside from it being a rule, they pointed out how an incorrect throw-in spot can present a significant advantage/disadvantage to either the offense or defense depending on the situation.
Our JV game evaluations by the V officials has a section just on throw-ins:

That has got to hurt. I hope you have never literally "screwed the pooch" on a call...... Not a pretty sight for the fans.

[Berkut]

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by LocDog249

That has got to hurt. I hope you have never literally "screwed the pooch" on a call...... Not a pretty sight for the fans.

One of my verbal pet peeves is literally when people misuse the term "literally."

[Adam]

Back to the OP: "Talk too much."

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

One of my verbal pet peeves is literally when people misuse the term "literally."

Me too, especially when it involves "screwing" and "the pooch."