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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 05:18pm
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blowing whistle for subs

Required? Of course, good habit as to have everyone's attention. Away from manual.

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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 05:21pm
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Thanks for starting a thread about this. It's something I've often thought about, as well. But, have never really discussed with colleagues.

I use the whistle in addition to holding up the palm when communicating "we have subs" to my partner(s).

Would love to hear what others have to say on the matter.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 05:23pm
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I'm going deaf already...

I don't whistle in subs unless I'm not sure I have my partners (or the subs') attention. Why add to the noise polution of a game? (I do NFHS games only)
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 05:32pm
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It's a required procedure in our local & provincial associations. We use FIBA rules.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 05:33pm
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Pregame I always tell my partner that we will have a whistle on all subs. I inform the table that only use the horn to get our attention and not to hit the horn for all subs (only do so if we do not notice).

I as a habit always whistle in subs, and I do think its a good thing to do as it forces you to be more aware as well as gives the impression that you are covering everything you need to and are aware of what is going on.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 06:12pm
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l hit the whistle almost all the time. Sometimes I may just say "Sub!" and wave them in if I am sure there's no chance of the ball becoming live.

According to the manual:

The official beckoning the substitutes should:

2. Sound his/her whistle, raise an open hand.

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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 06:16pm
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Does anyone here, that uses a whistle when calling forth subs, use a "double or triple tweet"? Sometimes I do. Tacky?
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 06:19pm
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a good referee will control the game thru a variety of ways: calls made/not made, positioning/physical presence, voice, and whistle.....not enough people use their whistle effectively....

I use my whistle on virtually every substitutution situation that I am responsible for.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 08:12pm
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We were told during our Fall League trng sessions NOT to do it as the table uses the horn/buzzer to signal us - agreed.

However, as I explained to the seasoned (and somewhat sometimes spoiled), V Officials, when you work JV and below (especially MS and Rec), you need to be ready to use the whistle more to control the game as the table sometimes isn't as alert or doesn't practice this technique as often as they should/we'd like.

When I need it, I use it. If I have a good table crew, I use it less.
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I hit the whistle when I feel as if there's a need to get the attention of anyone (sub waiting, partner not looking, horn hasn't buzzed). I do it based on feel.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 09:16pm
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The use of the whistle is required per the NFHS manual for bringing in substitutes.

The horn from the table is merely to alert the officials to the situation. It is not a signal to the substitute to enter.

The use of the whistle makes it clear to everyone that the sub may now enter. It is cleaner.

Even the NCAA is moving this direction. The NCAAW made the whistle a required mechanic a couple of years ago.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 11:32pm
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2.4.6 F manual.

I was chastised by partner for not blowing in subs a few weeks ago. I thought I always did. Just a quick toot should suffice if everyone is already paying attention.
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Does anyone here, that uses a whistle when calling forth subs, use a "double or triple tweet"? Sometimes I do. Tacky?
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Does anyone here, that uses a whistle when calling forth subs, use a "double or triple tweet"? Sometimes I do. Tacky?
Only if they don't respond to my initial whistle, but not normally.
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