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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 10:25am
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Whistle on Subs?

What is correct? What do you do? I have heard arguments for both having a whistle to bring in subs and also not having on if horn is sounded. I think it is in NFHS maual or rule book about having a whistle on subs, but I am not sure if state associations differ on this.

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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 10:40am
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I believe the "book" says that the R should discuss this with the Timer in pregame. I like to have a horn and if you also whistle, that's ok too.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 10:46am
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What is correct? What do you do? I have heard arguments for both having a whistle to bring in subs and also not having on if horn is sounded. I think it is in NFHS maual or rule book about having a whistle on subs, but I am not sure if state associations differ on this.

Let me know what you all think.

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Manual 2.4.5 F 2 "Sound his/her whistle...". Not sure what our associations' policies are here in MI.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 10:51am
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What is correct? What do you do? I have heard arguments for both having a whistle to bring in subs and also not having on if horn is sounded. I think it is in NFHS maual or rule book about having a whistle on subs, but I am not sure if state associations differ on this.

Let me know what you all think.

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It's not in the rules book, and state associations do differ on this.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 10:52am
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last several clinics I have been to have all said to whistle in every sub. I have gotten in the habit of doing so. While at times it does seem redundant, I have found that it does keep the players at the table until I beckon and whistle instead of them taking off on the buzzer.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 11:06am
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It's not in the rules book, and state associations do differ on this.
You're right, this is not in the book. Our state assoc wants you to discuss this with the timer in pregame.
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Whatever you decide to do, be consistent with it throughout the crew and the entire game.

Personally, I prefer the whistle. I feel it accomplishes two things. First, it sends the message to everyone that the official is in charge, not the horn. Second, it alerts my partners to hang on because I've got something. This second point is more important for a late arriving, additional sub than the first sub, obviously.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 11:37am
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Whatever the people you work for and with say is acceptable, do that.

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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 12:00pm
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 12:28pm
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I usually just whistle at the female coaches - and some of the moms.
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As someone who just recently moved into the V ranks, I was told that blowing the whistle was "redundant" and to let the table sound the horn.

My reply to that was always, "The reason I did it, and still do sometimes, is at below V level, the table is usually not that good and doesn't sound the horn, therefore the whistle is needed."

Took some getting used to.

I like what some of the others have said too.

Bottom line, as was said, "When in Rome...."
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 01:47pm
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Manual

this is in the manual so shouldn't it be followed?
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 01:51pm
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this is in the manual so shouldn't it be followed?
Not everyone uses the same manual. And all things in the manual are not to be used blindly.

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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 01:55pm
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this is in the manual so shouldn't it be followed?
Yep. The manual should be our bible. Unless local adaptations are mandated. Or the "crew chief" says we're going to do it differently on that game.
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Old Mon Nov 16, 2009, 06:02pm
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We make it a race with the scorer/timer. If I get to my whistle first he better not have a horn. If he gets to the horn first, I am sleeping on the job and get substitution seconds. helps me keep in mind the table/subs at each stopage in play. Here they want a whistle on all subs.
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