blowing whistle for subs

[jdmara]

Ironic that this was brought up. After the game on Friday the administrator for the evening knocked on the door and said that we had a visitor. Behind him was the IAHSAA director. He came walking in and discussed the game with us. One area that he is trying to emphasis is the sub procedure. This is the way he wants it:

1. Sub checks into the game with the official scorer
2. When the appropriate time come, the clock operator will buzz the horn
3. The appropriate official will then blow their whistle and wave the subs into the game

He always wants the horn and always wants the whistle, in that order. My concern was that the clock operator may not always know the appropriate time to buzz the horn to let subs in but that's the way he wants it. His concern is that sometimes the officials let the subs in without properly checking into the game. I discussed it with my table on Tuesday and they have been told different things each game. I'm sure it's very confusing for them.

-Josh

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by jdmara

...He always wants the horn and always wants the whistle, in that order. My concern was that the clock operator may not always know the appropriate time to buzz the horn to let subs in but that's the way he wants it. His concern is that sometimes the officials let the subs in without properly checking into the game. I discussed it with my table on Tuesday and they have been told different things each game. I'm sure it's very confusing for them.

-Josh

Thus my comment on unnecessary noise pollution. Isn't a horn AND whistle redundant/overkill? Is getting in the subs that big of a problem? *shrug* JMHO.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Thus my comment on unnecessary noise pollution. Isn't a horn AND whistle redundant/overkill? Is getting in the subs that big of a problem? *shrug* JMHO.

I agree with you 100%. Just relaying what Iowa's authoritative figure wants. As we always say, when in Rome...

-Josh

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by jdmara

As we always say, when in Rome...

-Josh

...tell Caesar he's full of it.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by jdmara

He always wants the horn and always wants the whistle, in that order. My concern was that the clock operator may not always know the appropriate time to buzz the horn to let subs in but that's the way he wants it. His concern is that sometimes the officials let the subs in without properly checking into the game. I discussed it with my table on Tuesday and they have been told different things each game. I'm sure it's very confusing for them.

Interesting. Did you ask him what you should do when you see a sub come to the table but the timer doesn't see him and therefore there is no horn when appropriate?

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Interesting. Did you ask him what you should do when you see a sub come to the table but the timer doesn't see him and therefore there is no horn when appropriate?

He indirectly addressed this question, IMO, when he said you have to assume if there is not a horn, the sub has not properly checked in.

He did address the situation where the coach sends up one sub at a time. He wants only the subs at the table when the ball became dead to be allowed to enter (within reason). If someone just picked up a foul and the coach wants to sub him out, then allow it but eliminate the lengthy sub process.

-Josh

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdmara

He indirectly addressed this question, IMO, when he said you have to assume if there is not a horn, the sub has not properly checked in.

He did address the situation where the coach sends up one sub at a time. He wants only the subs at the table when the ball became dead to be allowed to enter (within reason). If someone just picked up a foul and the coach wants to sub him out, then allow it but eliminate the lengthy sub process.

-Josh

So the IHSAA director wants you to use a different sub rule than the NFHS uses? The only time a sub is not allowed who has reported during a dead ball is if they report with less than 15 seconds left in the intermission or TO.

If he wants this done that way, he needs to put out a written directive so you guys have some sort of documented backing; otherwise you'll have no rules backing to make them wait.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So the IHSAA director wants you to use a different sub rule than the NFHS uses? The only time a sub is not allowed who has reported during a dead ball is if they report with less than 15 seconds left in the intermission or TO.

If he wants this done that way, he needs to put out a written directive so you guys have some sort of documented backing; otherwise you'll have no rules backing to make them wait.

Snaq,

If I am reading this correctly, he is not saying to not follow the rule; he is saying to not have multiple times players being sent to the table. There was an interpretation along with an editorial change which basically suggested that subs should all be done at one time, not one here, then several seconds another later. Does that mean that we do this realistically? Of course not, but I can understand if an area wants a stricter enforcement of the rule.

Peace

[Adam]

You might be right, Rut, I may have read that wrong and applied it more broadly than the director's intent.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You might be right, Rut, I may have read that wrong and applied it more broadly than the director's intent.

JRut is correct...Sorry, I probably didn't explain myself clear enough.

-Josh