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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 12:56pm
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Blarge ...Then it Wasn't

Blarge call in boys varsity game last night. Both coaches see the two officials give opposing calls. The two get together and come out of the discussion with a consensus PC call. Obviously the offensive coach wasnt happy.

I'm a relatively new ref so I'm curious as to what might have been discussed to change the blarge call to a PC.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 01:04pm
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Blarge call in boys varsity game last night. Both coaches see the two officials give opposing calls. The two get together and come out of the discussion with a consensus PC call. Obviously the offensive coach wasnt happy.

I'm a relatively new ref so I'm curious as to what might have been discussed to change the blarge call to a PC.
I cannot tell you what could have been talked about, but if both officials signaled, then they are stuck by rule. They must go with a double foul, it is that simple. Officials kicked the rule and the call.

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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 01:18pm
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Should have been a double foul. Charge on A1, Block on B1. Very straightforward.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 02:45pm
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I'm a relatively new ref so I'm curious as to what might have been discussed to change the blarge call to a PC.
I can tell you exactly what was discussed: either the right issue (whether defender had LGP) or the wrong one (whether he was "set").

But the discussion is moot, since by rule a blarge must be recorded as a double foul.

Unless you happen to be JAR.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 02:59pm
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Should have been a double foul. Charge on A1, Block on B1. Very straightforward.
...OK...who gets the ball?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:01pm
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What happens on simultaneous fouls?

its treated the same as if you have a double foul on 2 post players
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:04pm
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What happens on simultaneous fouls?

its treated the same as if you have a double foul on 2 post players
...so you are saying that EVERY blarge is treated the SAME as a double foul on 2 post players?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:06pm
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...so you are saying that EVERY blarge is treated the SAME as a double foul on 2 post players?
Yes,

what would you do in the case of the 2 post players getting a double foul? how would you administer the resumption of play?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:09pm
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what would you do in the case of the 2 post players getting a double foul? How would you administer the resumption of play?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:09pm
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what would you do in the case of the 2 post players getting a double foul?
I would expect to get yelled at by both coaches.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:10pm
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:39pm
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Blarge call in boys varsity game last night. Both coaches see the two officials give opposing calls. The two get together and come out of the discussion with a consensus PC call. Obviously the offensive coach wasnt happy.

I'm a relatively new ref so I'm curious as to what might have been discussed to change the blarge call to a PC.
More likely they came together, discussed and decided to defer to whoever's primary it was. But it's too late for that, they needed to go with a blarge, as unsavory as that is.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 04:08pm
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Just creating a discussion here...

...so if A1 has released his try for goal, and then crashes into B1...and then both officials have a blarge...are you still treating it exactly like a double foul on 2 post players, while A2 dribbles the ball at the top of the key?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 04:13pm
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Just creating a discussion here...

...so if A1 has released his try for goal, and then crashes into B1...and then both officials have a blarge...are you still treating it exactly like a double foul on 2 post players, while A2 dribbles the ball at the top of the key?
All simoltaneous fouls GO TO POI...nothing complicated about that.

In this instance POI will be jump ball as there was NO TEAM POSSESSION.

I think you are confusing POI with posession arrow. the possession arrow can be the POI. POI means point of interruption. When you have a simultaneous foul you go to the POI and the possession arrow can help you decide who gets possession.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 04:15pm
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Just creating a discussion here...

...so if A1 has released his try for goal, and then crashes into B1...and then both officials have a blarge...are you still treating it exactly like a double foul on 2 post players, while A2 dribbles the ball at the top of the key?
Yes, you go to the point of interruption.

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