Should there have been a whistle?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

Flopping is "trying to draw a foul". After watching this play a couple of times, I think B1 exagerrated the contact.

Do you know what "flopping" is? It's faking being fouled. A flop involves NO or very little contact. Are you really saying that there was NO or very little contact on that play?

If you think think that was a flop, we're looking at different films.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by justacoach

travel, small hop w/ both feet as soon as he receives the ball (prior to drilling defender who had solid LGP)

Are you coaching the white team?

To me it looked the hop was at the start of his dribble. Do you really think that #3 lifted his pivot foot before he started the dribble? Looked to me that it mighta been at the same time but "before" is a stretch imo. And if there's any doubt, I ain't making a call.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CLH

Tell me you're kidding and not actually condoning this as a useful movement or part of the mechanics are you?

Yes it's a useful movement to see rebounding contact underneath sometimes. And yes, Burr ain't the only one to use it.

And no, I'm not kidding. You do what you have to do sometimes when you've got a lot of big bodies banging underneath.

[CLH]

With all due respect, if the L is going to come off the baseline onto the court to take a look what good is the C? If this was a good idea, it would be in the mechanics manual, it's not found in any of them and it would be used more often than just by a select set of agin officials who are set in their ways and can do as they please. This is never a good idea for anyone, especially for the "less athletic" members of our profession.

Apparently we are going to have to agree to disagree on this because that "mechanic" is ridiculous.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by CLH

With all due respect, if the L is going to come off the baseline onto the court to take a look what good is the C? If this was a good idea, it would be in the mechanics manual, it's not found in any of them and it would be used more often than just by a select set of agin officials who are set in their ways and can do as they please. This is never a good idea for anyone, especially for the "less athletic" members of our profession.

Apparently we are going to have to agree to disagree on this because that "mechanic" is ridiculous.

You don't think an L that is just above the endline on one side has a completely different view than a C that is at the FT line extended on the other?

I don't know that I've used this positioning more than once or twice in my career, but I never say never, and the argument that "what's the C for?" is misguided. I'm a fan of going where you need to go to see the play. Normally that's where the proper mechanics suggest. Every once in a while you have to improvise.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Do you know what "flopping" is? It's faking being fouled. A flop involves NO or very little contact. Are you really saying that there was NO or very little contact on that play?

If you think think that was a flop, we're looking at different films.

Here, here, JR!!

2004-05 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

B. 'Flopping.' The defensive player or screener acting as though he or she has been charged by an opponent, when in fact he or she has not been, definitely has an impact on the game. It is detrimental to the best interests of basketball. The "actor" wants to create the false impression that he or she has been fouled in the charging/guarding situation, or while he or she is screening when in either case there is no contact or incidental contact. The "actor" falls to the court as though he or she were knocked down by the force of the contact. Those actions are designed to have a foul charged to the opponent – a foul not deserved. The "flop" also incites spectators. The rules are in place to deal with such activity and must be enforced. A technical foul is charged to the "actor" in all cases. Coaches can have a positive impact by appropriately dealing with players who fake being fouled.

It is not a part of the game. Officials must penalize the act.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I concur but I've also been told (by whom I don't recall) that I move too much, so I assume there is a happy medium.

could have been a subjective point of view..