Should there have been a whistle?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

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I was lead on this play. As it occurred in the game I felt that I would have been guessing on the play had I blown so I held. Two questions....

First, (a) should there have been a whistle on it? (b) and if so should it have been mine? (c) and what should have been called?

Second, what should I have done if anything to get a better view on the play?

(a). Yes

(b). No, center should have first shot on curl plays away from the endline or L

(c). Player Control

What you should have done is work a little wider when you have room on the endline.

A point:

Personally, I don't like hugging the sidelines. I like working the floor as the C and T, if I cannot see between two players, I move to where I can, and if that means stepping on the floor more thats what I do.

I remember someone mentioning to me. A basketball official should have a boxing referee mentality. Always working to see in between the two boxers/players.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Personally, I don't like hugging the sidelines. I like working the floor as the C and T, if I cannot see between two players, I move to where I can, and if that means stepping on the floor more thats what I do.

I remember someone mentioning to me. A basketball official should have a boxing referee mentality. Always working to see in between the two boxers/players.

I concur but I've also been told (by whom I don't recall) that I move too much, so I assume there is a happy medium.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I concur but I've also been told (by whom I don't recall) that I move too much, so I assume there is a happy medium.

As it regards moving, I've heard advice similar to what you have. We can get "happy feet." But that's not a reason not to get the right angle on a play.

Best advice I've heard: Seeing the play is like taking a great photo. The first key to taking a photo is to have the right angle on the shot. That means that as the play starts to develop you have to quickly get to a spot that gives you the angle. Many of us want to do that - and we move.

But the second part of a great photo is to be still when you "take the shot". If you're moving to get a good photo, but then snap the shot when you're moving, what do you get? Blurs. If you get your angle, you then need to "freeze" and watch the play. That gives you an opportunity to see the play develop without any 'distortion' or 'blur'.

It has been great advice for me. It takes some anticipation of where the play is going to be, which direction it is going to head, etc. I will take a quick step up, down, forward, back, etc. when the play is getting started to get where I can have the best view. But then, unless something very unexpected happens, I try to stay still and let the play develop.

Now, sometimes that won't work and it's not a hard-and-fast rule, but trying to get the angle early, then stopping while the play actually happens, works well for me.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

As it regards moving, I've heard advice similar to what you have. We can get "happy feet." But that's not a reason not to get the right angle on a play.

Best advice I've heard: Seeing the play is like taking a great photo. The first key to taking a photo is to have the right angle on the shot. That means that as the play starts to develop you have to quickly get to a spot that gives you the angle. Many of us want to do that - and we move.

But the second part of a great photo is to be still when you "take the shot". If you're moving to get a good photo, but then snap the shot when you're moving, what do you get? Blurs. If you get your angle, you then need to "freeze" and watch the play. That gives you an opportunity to see the play develop without any 'distortion' or 'blur'.

It has been great advice for me. It takes some anticipation of where the play is going to be, which direction it is going to head, etc. I will take a quick step up, down, forward, back, etc. when the play is getting started to get where I can have the best view. But then, unless something very unexpected happens, I try to stay still and let the play develop.

Now, sometimes that won't work and it's not a hard-and-fast rule, but trying to get the angle early, then stopping while the play actually happens, works well for me.

I like that, even though I'm the world's worst photographer!

[JPaco54]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

As it regards moving, I've heard advice similar to what you have. We can get "happy feet." But that's not a reason not to get the right angle on a play.

Best advice I've heard: Seeing the play is like taking a great photo. The first key to taking a photo is to have the right angle on the shot. That means that as the play starts to develop you have to quickly get to a spot that gives you the angle. Many of us want to do that - and we move.

But the second part of a great photo is to be still when you "take the shot". If you're moving to get a good photo, but then snap the shot when you're moving, what do you get? Blurs. If you get your angle, you then need to "freeze" and watch the play. That gives you an opportunity to see the play develop without any 'distortion' or 'blur'.

It has been great advice for me. It takes some anticipation of where the play is going to be, which direction it is going to head, etc. I will take a quick step up, down, forward, back, etc. when the play is getting started to get where I can have the best view. But then, unless something very unexpected happens, I try to stay still and let the play develop.

Now, sometimes that won't work and it's not a hard-and-fast rule, but trying to get the angle early, then stopping while the play actually happens, works well for me.

Thanks but help me out on this one...in two man, transition when these kids get ahead of me and I am the new L, there is no way I am going to beat them down the court, so what I have been doing, is slowing and stopping around the extended Free throw line and watch the play, then eventually moving down beyond the end line. I realized it is difficult to see the action while moving and although I am not in my proper place I can see the play and then move into place. Any suggetions?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by JPaco54

Thanks but help me out on this one...in two man, transition when these kids get ahead of me and I am the new L, there is no way I am going to beat them down the court, so what I have been doing, is slowing and stopping around the extended Free throw line and watch the play, then eventually moving down beyond the end line. I realized it is difficult to see the action while moving and although I am not in my proper place I can see the play and then move into place. Any suggetions?

Two-man is tough, and there are going to be times when you get beat. I have done the same as you - slow down and let the play go to the basket, then bust it down to the endline after the play (obviously if there's no call).

I think the mechanics are, for the most part, very good and if you follow them you will usually be in a good position to call the game. However, my general thought is as every play develops: go where you need to go to see the play, even if it's not "by the book."

[JPaco54]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Two-man is tough, and there are going to be times when you get beat. I have done the same as you - slow down and let the play go to the basket, then bust it down to the endline after the play (obviously if there's no call).

I think the mechanics are, for the most part, very good and if you follow them you will usually be in a good position to call the game. However, my general thought is as every play develops: go where you need to go to see the play, even if it's not "by the book."

Thanks!

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I concur but I've also been told (by whom I don't recall) that I move too much, so I assume there is a happy medium.

could have been a subjective point of view..