NCAA/Highschool rule question

[treym3]

Quick question for the refs out there.

I play in a league where they have a rule set that is a mixture of college and high school rules. The following situation occurred yesterday in our game:

Team A attempts a shot and is fouled in the act, their player is awarded 2 foul shots.
BEFORE Team A shoots a free throw, Team B is called for a technical foul.
The refs had the player who was fouled shoot 4 free throws in a row while Team B stood at the half court line.
They then gave Team A the possession after all the free throws.

Was this called correctly?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by treym3

Quick question for the refs out there.

I play in a league where they have a rule set that is a mixture of college and high school rules. The following situation occurred yesterday in our game:

Team A attempts a shot and is fouled in the act, their player is awarded 2 foul shots.
BEFORE Team A shoots a free throw, Team B is called for a technical foul.
The refs had the player who was fouled shoot 4 free throws in a row while Team B stood at the half court line.
They then gave Team A the possession after all the free throws.

Was this called correctly?

This depends on which rule set is being used for technical fouls. In high school rules, this would be correct, assuming the shooting team wanted the fouled player to shoot the technical shots as well.

In college, it depends on which sort of technical foul was called. Most likely, it would have been different.

How were you thinking it should have been handled?

[deecee]

by HS rules its absolutely right - 2 shots for the shooting foul and 2 shots for the T - then their ball as well.

by college its right depending on the type of T - the only difference would be wheter or not its team A possesion or POI (at least thats my understanding from camp this past summer).

[Jurassic Referee]

There's no rules requirements for the players to stand at half-court during the FT's. They must be outside the 3-point arc and above the FT line extended to the sideline.

Another myth.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There's no rules requirements for the players to stand at half-court during the FT's. They must be outside the 3-point arc and above the FT line extended to the sideline.

Another myth.....

Yeah, good point, but he didn't say the refs forced the players to stand there.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, good point, but he didn't say the refs forced the players to stand there.

It is amazing to me how the players just "know" to go back behind the division line, without anyone telling them. I cannot think of any T situation, at any level that I've done over the last several years, where I or my partner(s) has told them to back up behind the line.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There's no rules requirements for the players to stand at half-court during the FT's. They must be outside the 3-point arc and above the FT line extended to the sideline.
Another myth.....

In spite of the myth, most times a tech FT is being shot, does it also seem to you that the remaining players seem to just automatically go beyond the division line on their own? The only time they might wander into the area beyond the arc and FT line extended is if the coach at the nearer bench wants to talk to them like the coach at the far bench usually does during a tech FT.
Hasn't led to any problems that I've observed. Just kinda funny that they usually follow the myth without ever being asked to do it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Freddy

In spite of the myth, most times a tech FT is being shot, does it also seem to you that the remaining players seem to just automatically go beyond the division line on their own? The only time they might wander into the area beyond the arc and FT line extended is if the coach at the nearer bench wants to talk to them like the coach at the far bench usually does during a tech FT.
Hasn't led to any problems that I've observed. Just kinda funny that they usually follow the myth without ever being asked to do it.

True, as M&M and his pet rat also so observed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

True, as M&M and his pet rat also so observed.

Hey.....
I'm nobody's pet.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Hey.....
I'm nobody's pet.

Sorry, Ben.

My apologies to Willard too.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by Freddy

In spite of the myth, most times a tech FT is being shot, does it also seem to you that the remaining players seem to just automatically go beyond the division line on their own? The only time they might wander into the area beyond the arc and FT line extended is if the coach at the nearer bench wants to talk to them like the coach at the far bench usually does during a tech FT.
Hasn't led to any problems that I've observed. Just kinda funny that they usually follow the myth without ever being asked to do it.

Its probably because when they were younger they've always had the ref tell them to go back there. Hell I've had HS varsity partners tell them to do it. (I've also had partners count out loud on throw ins and other stupid ****) In the end it's not worth getting worked up over so I just leave out a big sigh internally and go on.

[APG]

I never tell the players to go to the half court line, but if they want to do that, more power to them. I'll see the odd time where a coach actually knows the rule () and takes advantage of the dead time.