Is this a travel?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

True, but a defender touching a ball that is not in the control of someone does, IMO. Unless you can show me where the rules say definitively otherwise on this play.

I was looking at the OP. In the case of the block attempt, if the defender touched the ball, which was then subsequently dropped by the shooter, as opposed to knocked free, this would be a travel.

In this second play, if the throw was not a bullet aimed at the defender's, uh, vulnerable areas, I guess we just rule it to be an errant pass and play on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I was looking at the OP. In the case of the block attempt, if the defender touched the ball, which was then subsequently dropped by the shooter, as opposed to knocked free, this would be a travel.

In this second play, if the throw was not a bullet aimed at the defender's, uh, vulnerable areas, I guess we just rule it to be an errant pass and play on.

I was reading the OP differently. A1 jumps, sees it's going to be blocked, and drops the ball. The ball then touches or is touched by B1. A1 then retrieves it.