Travel or not

Dan_ref · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 09:47pm

A1 falls down holding the ball but lands on B1 who is already on the floor (don't ask, let's just say no illegal contact involved). A1 does not at any time touch the floor.

Travel? Or not.

David B · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:14pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

A1 falls down holding the ball but lands on B1 who is already on the floor (don't ask, let's just say no illegal contact involved). A1 does not at any time touch the floor.

Travel? Or not.

Travel.

Thanks
David

Adam · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:46pm

Does he move his pivot foot? I think I saw his pivot foot move.

Dan_ref · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:49pm

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
Does he move his pivot foot? I think I saw his pivot foot move.

You can move your pivot foot legally.

tjones1 · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:50pm

Sounds like a travel--assuming he moved his pivot. I've yet to see someone fall and keep one foot on the floor.....but there's a first for everything!

Adam · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:51pm

I know. I'm thinking PC here. B1 is disadvantaged by the contact because he can't get up.

keithb · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:53pm

Let's put it this way: If you call a travel who's going to argue?

ChuckElias · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 10:43am

I once saw this in an NBA game. Kevin McHale secured an offensive rebound, fell back onto a player who had fallen on the floor. While sitting on the other player (don't know if it was a teammate or not), McHale shot the ball and it went in. Good basket.

thumpferee · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 11:04am

What if B1's hand was OOB when A1 fell on him/her?

Smitty · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 11:09am

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Originally posted by thumpferee
What if B1's hand was OOB when A1 fell on him/her?

I believe touching a person who is out of bounds does not make you out of bounds. That's defined in the rulebook somewhere where it defines touching a "thing" out of bounds and it specifically says that a person does not count as a "thing"....if that makes any sense at all. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Jurassic Referee · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 11:12am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I once saw this in an NBA game. Kevin McHale secured an offensive rebound, fell back onto a player who had fallen on the floor. While sitting on the other player (don't know if it was a teammate or not), McHale shot the ball and it went in. Good basket.

I thought that the NBA rule was NO travelling if you fell with the ball. I also thought that there's an NBA rule saying if an official calls travelling more than once a game, he's automatically fined and suspended. Or does it just seem that way?

NBA basketball- it's fantaaaaastic(but we can't beat Italy).

thumpferee · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 11:21am

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Originally posted by Smitty

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Originally posted by thumpferee
What if B1's hand was OOB when A1 fell on him/her?

I believe touching a person who is out of bounds does not make you out of bounds. That's defined in the rulebook somewhere where it defines touching a "thing" out of bounds and it specifically says that a person does not count as a "thing"....if that makes any sense at all. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

The reason I ask, if you look at rule 7-1-2,2 says any other person. But then I read Case play 7-1-1 A

Ah, nevermind, they differenciate between player and ball, I got it!

thanks

Rick Durkee · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 12:11pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

A1 falls down holding the ball but lands on B1 who is already on the floor (don't ask, let's just say no illegal contact involved). A1 does not at any time touch the floor.

Travel? Or not.

Do you mean that there was no illegal contact that caused B to go to the floor? Or do you mean that A falling on B was not illegal contact? I would call the travel, but just for fun, is there any way to justify this as a PC foul?

WyMike · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 12:32pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

A1 falls down holding the ball but lands on B1 who is already on the floor (don't ask, let's just say no illegal contact involved). A1 does not at any time touch the floor.

Travel? Or not.

If the ball crosses the plane of the endzone without A1 being down by contact it's a touch.... er... nevermind.

coachgrd · #15 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 20, 2005, 12:35pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I once saw this in an NBA game. Kevin McHale secured an offensive rebound, fell back onto a player who had fallen on the floor. While sitting on the other player (don't know if it was a teammate or not), McHale shot the ball and it went in. Good basket.

Been a while since I've watched the NBA (10 years) but last I knew, traveling was thrown out of their rule book.