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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 12:20pm
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I would say this was handled very poorly! First off, it's not correctable. Second, if the technical wasn't called when the violation occurred, you can't go back and enforce it after the game has ended....
Other than that, they got it right. Jump ball to start the OT.

How far did they come onto the court? Here are the mistakes I see here.

1. The nearer official should have probably called this when she saw it, giving B two shots and the ball at half court with .4 seconds remaining.

2. The farther official should have gotten his butt off the court when the horn sounded.

3. The farther official should have simply ignored the coach's request for a retroactive T.

4. This is what it boils down to, though, A should not have come off their bench; they deserved what they got.

5. B coach now has the impression that he can work these two officials, and he's right.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 01:35pm
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Other than that, they got it right. Jump ball to start the OT.

How far did they come onto the court? Here are the mistakes I see here.

1. The nearer official should have probably called this when she saw it, giving B two shots and the ball at half court with .4 seconds remaining.
Or, get the A team off the court and resume play. Especially if they were only on a couple of feet.

Or, be pro-active and remind an assistant to keep his team off the court until after B has inbounded the ball (and the clock expires)
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 02:38pm
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They were more than a few feet on the floor. Half the bench and one of the assistant coaches came off the bench. I read the link that SAJ provided about a similar situation. Some refs agreed in calling the technical and others didn't. I believe in using common sense, however, what Team A did was a technical according to the rulebook. I have no problem that it was called but in which the manner that it happened. You call it right after it happened not as one person said earlier "retroactively." It was a hard pill to swallow for Team A but it was their own fault.
There is video of the entire game. Here is the link:
Girls Varsity Basketball vs. Lake Oswego | Lakeridge High School Videos | iHigh.com

the incident occurs at 1:31:43

watch the video and decide for yourself.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 04:54pm
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watch the video and decide for yourself.
Why? Is there something you left out of the situation? I'm not going to watch 90 minutes of video just so I can second guess the officials on the court.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 05:05pm
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I watched the part in question, and I think the officials got the right call, but they really reached it in a roundabout way. .4 left, and half the bench ran out in the middle of the floor immediately after the last free throw. They have no complaint.

But, apparently the coach prompted one official, who in turn, questioned/prompted the other before the call was reached.

Apparently the first official somehow didn't see the extra players on the floor?
If this was the case, it is questionable how he was drawn into enough of a conversation after the horn to even know what she was complaining about.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 08:29pm
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Why? Is there something you left out of the situation? I'm not going to watch 90 minutes of video just so I can second guess the officials on the court.
You don't even want to sneek a little peek.

Took me about 30 seconds to get where I needed to go.

I like giving T's. Thats one I even wouldn't want to give ,but I would.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 09:16pm
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You don't even want to sneek a little peek.

Took me about 30 seconds to get where I needed to go.

I like giving T's. Thats one I even wouldn't want to give ,but I would.
So what was the lead's delay in doing *anything* there? I mean, the official knows the clock situation, you see half the team on the court getting in the way, and yet.........stand there......do nothing.......until someone complains.
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 10:55pm
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So what was the lead's delay in doing *anything* there? I mean, the official knows the clock situation, you see half the team on the court getting in the way, and yet.........stand there......do nothing.......until someone complains.
A brain fart ? Not wanting to make "that" call in that situation.

I would definetly like to ask her about the call or lack of one. Anyone got her number ?
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