JUCO misery

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

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Early in game Team A HC gets T after being out of box and getting a little personal with partner over a call. No more problems after the T. Late in 4th qtr team B requests and is granted TO. After the warning horn #3 checks in at table and is not waved onto court. Players return to court. Lead counts players and administers ball for inbound pass.

Team A has ball deflected and there is a scramble. A2 gets ball sitting in paint. At this point Coach Team B runs onto court by trail trying to get his attention and yelling that A had 6 players on court. Trail hits whistle! HC team B is demanding that Team A's coach be given a Class A -T and be DQ'd. However, the intitial whistle was from trail for him being on court screaming without being beckoned. Wow - now he is just a little upset.

Crew gets together and confer. Yes, upon counting, team A did suddenly have 6 on the court. Sometime after partner counted and gave ball to A1 for throw-in and the scramble for deflected pass, #3 entered the court on his own. Table and team A HC confirm. So ........ HC team A was given a class B - T for #3 entering court w/o being beckoned causing 6 players from team A to be on court. Team A #3 given class B - T for entering court without being beckoned making 6 players for team A. HC - team B given a Class B - T for entering court w/o permission. Free throws follow.

Coach team B then requests and is granted TO. Following TO - team A is given ball at POI (I really had to fight for this - as they were going to give ball to team B at division line) - in this case the endline, lane line extended as A2 was holding ball sitting in paint when whistle sounded. Now Coach team B wants his TO back - because he thought his team should be getting ball. Was told that once the TO had been granted - there is nothing in place for him to get it back even if he had not yet already used it.

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Who made the hilighted decisions? Or are you including these things in the list of things that went wrong?

[chartrusepengui]

Basically - I was watching the scramble from C. I saw A2 sitting on lane line my side when he picked up ball and covered it like FB halfback and was turning his head - IMO - to find an official and yell for TO. Before that could happen the whistle stopped play. R went to T to ask what the whistle was for.

I was watching players - and when they called me to confer everything had been decided - even a division line throw in for B. When I reminded him that in college most T's go to POI except for certain specific situations he got miffed for me saying anything about it. Then R was "thinking about going with a travel on A2" - as he was sitting on ground when whistle went off and said he thought he must have rolled to get that way- so still B ball but different spot. I asked him what he SAW. He finally admitted to not actually seeing that part of the play - and asked me what I actually saw. I told him A2's play was legal and he had possession when whistle stopped play. So POI was A - enline throw in at lane line extended.

That was the extent of what he wanted my input to be. It was like that from the pregame. I did my best and tried to help when possible but they were not really open to much of anything I said.

I'll be honest - at that point I was ready to be the he!! out of there.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Basically - I was watching the scramble from C. I saw A2 sitting on lane line my side when he picked up ball and covered it like FB halfback and was turning his head - IMO - to find an official and yell for TO. Before that could happen the whistle stopped play. R went to T to ask what the whistle was for.

I was watching players - and when they called me to confer everything had been decided - even a division line throw in for B. When I reminded him that in college most T's go to POI except for certain specific situations he got miffed for me saying anything about it. Then R was "thinking about going with a travel on A2" - as he was sitting on ground when whistle went off and said he thought he must have rolled to get that way- so still B ball but different spot. I asked him what he SAW. He finally admitted to not actually seeing that part of the play - and asked me what I actually saw. I told him A2's play was legal and he had possession when whistle stopped play. So POI was A - enline throw in at lane line extended.

That was the extent of what he wanted my input to be. It was like that from the pregame. I did my best and tried to help when possible but they were not really open to much of anything I said.

I'll be honest - at that point I was ready to be the he!! out of there.

Coach A should not have received a Class B technical for a substitute (#3) illegally entering the court. It falls under Article 1 of Class B technicals which only get assessed to the perpetrator.