Coaches questioning table crew

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by chseagle

As far as I'm concerned anymore a dead ball is between intermissions, during time-outs, & after reporting a foul but b4 the free throws or throw-in (AKA Clock is not running).

This was the 1st time that I can remember that the visiting coaches were so vocal against the table crew.

That may be your defintion but it is not correct.

It is also dead on a made basket after the ball drops through the basket and stays dead until the throw-in team has the ball OOB for a throwin (or the official feels they should have had the ball OOB for a throwin).

It is also dead the moment the official blows the whistle for a foul (or until an airborne shooter lands)....not just after the foul is reported.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That may be your defintion but it is not correct.

It is also dead on a made basket after the ball drops through the basket and stays dead until the throw-in team has the ball OOB for a throwin (or the official feels they should have had the ball OOB for a throwin).

It is also dead the moment the official blows the whistle for a foul (or until an airborne shooter lands)....not just after the foul is reported.

Not true.
Not correct, again.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That may be your defintion but it is not correct.

It is also dead on a made basket after the ball drops through the basket and stays dead until the throw-in team has the ball OOB for a throwin (or the official feels they should have had the ball OOB for a throwin).

It is also dead the moment the official blows the whistle for a foul (or until an airborne shooter lands)....not just after the foul is reported.

Cameron,

My definition of a dead ball is from a timer's POV. How I see a dead ball situation is that no player has control of the ball for a throw-in or free throw attempt (after a foul, during a time-out, or intermission). If the clock is running, the ball is not dead, unless a running clock rule is in effect (as the clock only stops for time-outs or intermissions).

IOW, when the timer can buzz the officials to signal that a substitute is waiting at the table or when play is stopped.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Cameron,

My definition of a dead ball is from a timer's POV. How I see a dead ball situation is that no player has control of the ball for a throw-in or free throw attempt (after a foul, during a time-out, or intermission). If the clock is running, the ball is not dead, unless a running clock rule is in effect (as the clock only stops for time-outs or intermissions).

IOW, when the timer can buzz the officials to signal that a substitute is waiting at the table or when play is stopped.

Perhaps you should use the correct definitions and terminology...even as a timer. You're mixing two things....dead/live ball and running/stopped clock. All four combinations are possible. The proper time that a timer can buzz for subs when the ball is dead AND the clock is stopped. If either of those is not true, then no subs can be made.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You're mixing two things....dead/live ball and running/stopped clock.

And you are confusing dead/live ball situations yourself as I pointed out in my previous post in this thread. You are mistaken about when the ball becomes dead in foul situations as well as the impact of an airborne shooter.