Newbies quiz

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

it was a joke. And coaches can't call timeouts? Since when? Is that a league thing?

Coaches "request" timeouts. Officials "call" timeouts if the request is made at an appropriate time.

It's a semantic issue that seems to draw fire everytime someone gets it "wrong" in here.

The funny thing is, the case book makes the same semantic "error," if I remember correctly.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Here's a few questions my local kids rec league has on a test for first year officials (usually HS kids). NF rules.

1) A1 is standing inbounds in front count and makes a shot into the correct basket. No fouls or violations occurred, yet the basket does not count. Why?

2) During play, A1 punches B1 in the face, yet none of the officials calls a foul. Why?

3) Team A has three all of their timeouts remaining. During a dead ball, A1 requests a timeout but the official does not grant it. Why?

I haven't looked at anybody's answers but here I go:

1) It was after the horn; or it was close to the horn but would have caused OT

2) They didn't see it

3) It's during the intermission before OT and the refs are pissed at A1 for missing the game-winning free throw, so they ignore him.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by representing

EDIT: I'm not being serious for 1 and 3. This was just a joke.

I like jokes here as much as (and probably more than) anyone, so if they were jokes, I accept that. Next time, use a smiley face or something similar, or else make it really obvious that it was a joke.

Sorry if I came back too strong.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

3) It's during the intermission before OT and the refs are pissed at A1 for missing the game-winning free throw, so they ignore him.

I teach the newbies in my league that if that happens, call violations on the non-shooting team until the kid hits one (a FT, not an opponent).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Coaches "request" timeouts. Officials "call" timeouts if the request is made at an appropriate time. It's a semantic issue that seems to draw fire everytime someone gets it "wrong" in here.

That's how we tell the difference between us and, "Them". Now you've given it away. Please delete your post, or we'll do the same thing to you that we did to Old School. You don't see him posting anymore on this Forum? Do you? Enough said.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The funny thing is, the case book makes the same semantic "error," if I remember correctly.

You remember correctly:
*3.2.2 SITUATION F: ... time-out is called.
3.3.1 SITUATION D: ... time-out is called.
3.3.6 SITUATION A: ... call a time-out.
3.3.6 SITUATION B: ... call a time-out.
3.3.7 SITUATION B: ...call a time-out.
3.3.7 SITUATION C: ... call a time-out.
4.34.1 SITUATION: ... calls a time-out.
4.44.3 SITUATION C: ... call a time-out.
4.44.5 SITUATION B: ... call a time-out.
4.44.5 SITUATION D: ... call a time-out.
6.1.2 SITUATION B: ... calls for a time-out.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Coaches "request" timeouts. Officials "call" timeouts if the request is made at an appropriate time.

It's a semantic issue that seems to draw fire everytime someone gets it "wrong" in here.

The funny thing is, the case book makes the same semantic "error," if I remember correctly.

Officials call timeouts? Can you find one spot in either the rule or case book where it says anything about officials calling timeouts?

Anyone who thinks that this is an error needs to actually read the rule book and see that the what the official does when there is a timeout request is called granting a timeout. Apparently some people have imagined the word calling replacing granting and therefore consider it incorrect to say that a player called timeout when in actuality they were the one who didn't know the proper term.

[Adam]

Look, by rule, coaches and players can only request a timeout. The only people who can actually "call" anything have whistles; that's where the semantics come from.

Like I alluded to before, though, it's not a big deal except to some.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Look, by rule, coaches and players can only request a timeout. The only people who can actually "call" anything have whistles; that's where the semantics come from.

Like I alluded to before, though, it's not a big deal except to some.

We can put it in the "pet peeve" thread....if it's not already there.

These cross-thread posts are a pet peeve of mine.......

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by grunewar

These cross-thread posts are a pet peeve of mine.......

These posts complaining about cross-thread posts are a pet peeve of mine.

Also, these posts complaining about complaining about cross-thread posts are a pet peeve of mine. There - I beat ya' to it.