Counting

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Thanks. Rough crowd here all of the time. Don't understand why everone has to be such smart asses

Many of you are experst at what you do and if you did not know it, a lot of players, coaches and fans come to this site to read and learn.

They don't have rule books or official's manuals and most will never have or see anything like.

Happy Holidays!

I still have to ask. What makes you ask?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I still have to ask. What makes you ask?

As my Mom used to say, "Take a pill".

[BillyMac]

Today, with every game, from third grade on up, being taped, in some cases on a mom's cell phone, we all must show these visible counts at all times. No more, "Oh, I forgot to start my ten second count, I guess that I'll pick it up at, oh, three", or, "Gee, he's been closely guarded for a second or so, so I guess I'll pick up my count at, oh, let's see, two", like in the olden days, not that I ever did anything like that.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Today, with every game, from third grade on up, being taped, in some cases on a mom's cell phone, we all must show these visible counts at all times. No more, "Oh, I forgot to start my ten second count, I guess that I'll pick it up at, oh, three", or, "Gee, he's been closely guarded for a second or so, so I guess I'll pick up my count at, oh, let's see, two", like in the olden days, not that I ever did anything like that.

Has being taped on anyone's cell phone every really caused anybody a problem?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Has being taped on anyone's cell phone every really caused anybody a problem?

Yeah, but it had nothing to do with officiating!

[BillyMac]

Not that I ever engaged in such activity, but ...

Originally Posted by just another ref

Has being taped on anyone's cell phone every really caused anybody a problem?

I had a parent show me a cell phone video between periods of a scrimmage that showed me making the correct call on a last second shot that didn't beat the horn. It could have just as easily been an incorrect call, in a real game, and the parent could have just as easily given the video to the coach.

Now I would feel bad, but wouldn't be embarrassed, by such an incorrect call on a "bang bang" play like the one I described, but I would certainly be embarrassed if I made a crucial five second, or ten second call, and was later shown a video where I only made four, or nine, visible counts, where both the rulebook, and the manual, state that we are supposed to make such counts visible.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

....I would certainly be embarrassed if I made a crucial five second, or ten second call, and was later shown a video where I only made four, or nine, visible counts, where both the rulebook, and the manual, state that we are supposed to make such counts visible.

I wouldn't. The only way I can see that this could possibly be an issue would be on a closely guarded count. The others have a definite indication of when they should start, and if my visible count is a beat behind the count, I can't imagine that anybody would ever notice, and if they did, I can't see how they could make an argument out of it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I can't imagine that anybody would ever notice, and if they did, I can't see how they could make an argument out of it.

"Hey Mr. BillyMac. Remember when you were here last week, and you made that closely guarded count against us in the last two minutes, in the game that we lost by one point, that kept us from any chance of making the state tournament? Sure you remember. Well, Ms. Johnson, our point guard's mother, that's right, the good looking chick who always sits behind our bench, well, she showed me a video on her cell phone, I've looked at it several times, and it clearly shows you making only four visible counts, with you blowing that #@%* whistle in synch with the last count. Ain't you supposed to show all your counts? What's that? You're asking me why we hired you for another game after that #@%* call? Well, Ms. Johnson is also an influential member of the PTA, she's a single mom, thinks that you're quite handsome, and wants to meet you."

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I still have to ask. What makes you ask?

What makes anyone ask anything on this site? Looking for an answer or wanting to have a discussion. In my case, looking for an answer.

Thanks!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What makes anyone ask anything on this site? Looking for an answer or wanting to have a discussion. In my case, looking for an answer.

Thanks!

Often times questions are posed here due to situations that have come up in games, or debates that have come up in bars, or discussions that have come up at local association meetings. Just as often, those situations/debates/discussions are as interesting to us as the question itself.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Often times questions are posed here due to situations that have come up in games, or debates that have come up in bars, or discussions that have come up at local association meetings. Just as often, those situations/debates/discussions are as interesting to us as the question itself.

Exactly. Things come up for players, fans and coaches as well. And those people are looking for answers and discussions on that topic.

Happy Holidays!

[Back In The Saddle]

Hey Billy,

Tell Ms. Johnson to keep the lens cap on, or completely off.