T Up a Fan?!?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

No one other than bench personnel or the medical trainer is ever allowed to come onto the court during a game. PERIOD.
If random people come out without being granted permission, then they need to be removed from the facility.


I firmly believe that if the team/coach can't control their fans/followers, then they should be penalized.

Originally Posted by 2-8-1

The officials shall penalize unsporting conduct by any.........follower.

Note:
"The home management or game committee is responsible for spectator behavior, insofar as it can reasonably be expected to control the spectators. The officials may call fouls on either team if its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game. Discretion must be used in calling such fouls, however, lest a team be unjustly penalized. When team supporters become unruly or interfere with the orderly progress of the game, the officials shall stop the game until the host management resolves the situation and the game can proceed in an orderly manner. In the absence of
a designated school representative, the home coach shall serve as the host management."

So you consider when a mom steps out to hold her daughter's hand while she is assisted from the court after tearing her ACL to be unsporting conduct?

Doesn't sound very discreet to me.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So you consider when a mom steps out to hold her daughter's hand while she is assisted from the court after tearing her ACL to be unsporting conduct?

Doesn't sound very discreet to me.

What if a member of Game Management escorted the parent out onto the court to maintain some order?

Basically this is a catch-22 as that if the parent is only going out to comfort their child isn't viewed as unsporting behavior. However if that parent is going out to complain to the floor officials that their child was fouled & arguing the call it is considered unsporting behavior.

I can see if game management announced overhead that no one go onto the court except for the coach &/or medical personnel, but how often do announcements like that happen?

Again, this comes down to how game management should handle things as well as the floor officials.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So you consider when a mom steps out to hold her daughter's hand while she is assisted from the court after tearing her ACL to be unsporting conduct?

Doesn't sound very discreet to me.

If a player tears her ACL, she isn't going to be remaining in the gym anyway.

The general principle is that the playing area, no matter what the sport, is off limits to spectators. Only the game participants, officials, coaches, and medical personnel are to be there. Anyone else who violates this perimeter earns an ejection. That area must be inviolable.

This is the only policy which makes sense in order to ensure the safety of those involved with the contest.

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

My only objection here is to the ridiculous notion that by signing a medical waiver I am somehow prohibited from being directly involved in caring for my injured child.

You can be involved as long as you remain outside of the playing area. You can be consulted by those who are present to provide such care.

In the event that the injury is deemed serious, it makes sense to have your participation, but you aren't sticking around for the rest of the contest if you elect to enter the playing area and I am one of the officials.

I can't imagine that you would want to anyway, for if the injury is truly that serious, you would be accompanying your young one to another location for further medical treatment.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You can be involved as long as you remain outside of the playing area. You can be consulted by those who are present to provide such care.

In the event that the injury is deemed serious, it makes sense to have your participation, but you aren't sticking around for the rest of the contest if you elect to enter the playing area and I am one of the officials.

And on top of this, you would call a team technical?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

And on top of this, you would call a team technical?

If the person came out without the permission of game management--absolutely.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If the person came out without the permission of game management--absolutely.

I may be wrong again, but I think I speak for us all when I say.......wow.

[chseagle]

What about if the parent requesting to come out onto the court is a Dr./EMT/Nurse or other medical personnel?

What if the student-athlete has several allergies to medications that the parent knows about, but not the coach?

Not every coach is going to know the exact medical histories of all their players, nor will they have such files handy in case of such a situation.

There are extenuating circumstances that would allow parents to come out onto the court in a medical emergency.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What about if the parent requesting to come out onto the court is a Dr./EMT/Nurse or other medical personnel?

What if the student-athlete has several allergies to medications that the parent knows about, but not the coach?

Not every coach is going to know the exact medical histories of all their players, nor will they have such files handy in case of such a situation.

There are extenuating circumstances that would allow parents to come out onto the court in a medical emergency.

But not rush out on his/her own without proper authorization.

Injuries happen in HS sports. Parents need to understand that when they give permission for their child to participate.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I may be wrong again, but I think I speak for us all when I say.......wow.

Double that wow. But it doesn't surprise me. Nevada says some pretty whacky things. This is just another one.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Double that wow. But it doesn't surprise me. Nevada says some pretty whacky things. This is just another one.

I am sure mbyron reviewed the context of the spelling and gave it his blessing by omission.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If the person came out without the permission of game management--absolutely.

I would prefer to allow GM to deal with it. That seems to be the intent of 2-8-1.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If the person came out without the permission of game management--absolutely.

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