Flagrant foul

[TimTaylor]

Examples...let's see.....

Player trapped in back court and didn't like it when my partner called him for traveling - when I asked him for the ball he turned and threw it directly at me at head level as hard as he could from about 10 feet away .....it got better.... when I reported the flagrant & resulting DQ, his coach came yelling and screaming onto the court, earning himself a T from my partner!

Player going for layup on a fast break - defender takes him out from behind and both go crashing to the floor. As I whistle and indicate intentional foul, player that was fouled rolls over and deliberately kicks the kid who fouled him.

[Adam]

Aside from fighting (the obvious), I'll give you an example.
2nd quarter of a BF game, B1 shoves a breakaway shooter from behind. I hit him with the intentional.
Early in the 4th quarter, B1 does it again; this time with a smaller shooter. B1 is 6-2 250 and the shooter was about 5-8 150. Not only did he shove him in the back, he wound up and shoved "through" him. The intent was obvious, and my partner went immediately to the flagrant call.

His parents weren't happy. Apparently, his dad tried to get to our locker room after the game. Then, his mom called the school (game admin was a varsity official in our association) and complained that they (the home school) and the officials were depriving her son of his right to play ball (due to the one game suspension that comes with a flagrant foul).

[Thumper68]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Aside from fighting (the obvious), I'll give you an example.
2nd quarter of a BF game, B1 shoves a breakaway shooter from behind. I hit him with the intentional.
Early in the 4th quarter, B1 does it again; this time with a smaller shooter. B1 is 6-2 250 and the shooter was about 5-8 150. Not only did he shove him in the back, he wound up and shoved "through" him. The intent was obvious, and my partner went immediately to the flagrant call.

His parents weren't happy. Apparently, his dad tried to get to our locker room after the game. Then, his mom called the school (game admin was a varsity official in our association) and complained that they (the home school) and the officials were depriving her son of his right to play ball (due to the one game suspension that comes with a flagrant foul).

This is one thing that today's society and myself tend to differ on. I was always taught that sports (and any other extra activities) were a privilege and not a right. Act and play appropriately and then you don’t have to worry about your right to play. Just my 2 cents. YMMV.

[offici88]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Examples...let's see.....
Player going for layup on a fast break - defender takes him out from behind and both go crashing to the floor. As I whistle and indicate intentional foul, player that was fouled rolls over and deliberately kicks the kid who fouled him.

Intentional on A1 and Flagrant T on B1. I don't have my books in front of me so clarify for me, who gets the ball and where?

Obviously we'll shoot free throws for both teams in the order the fouls occurred (with a replacement player for B). Does this go to AP? POI or mid-court?

I'll register my guess as AP at mid-court.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by offici88

Intentional on A1 and Flagrant T on B1. I don't have my books in front of me so clarify for me, who gets the ball and where?

Obviously we'll shoot free throws for both teams in the order the fouls occurred (with a replacement player for B). Does this go to AP? POI or mid-court?

I'll register my guess as AP at mid-court.

Huh? After the free throws for a technical foul, the shooting team gets the ball at midcourt, opposite table.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by offici88

Obviously we'll shoot free throws for both teams in the order the fouls occurred (with a replacement player for B). Does this go to AP? POI or mid-court?

I'll register my guess as AP at mid-court.

You had it right on the order for the free throws - penalizing fouls in the order they occur also tells us who gets the ball. The team who shoots the second set of FTs gets the ball at mid-court.

[offici88]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

You had it right on the order for the free throws - penalizing fouls in the order they occur also tells us who gets the ball. The team who shoots the second set of FTs gets the ball at mid-court.

I'm confusing successive with double. Double T would be POI, right?

Since this was one then the other, shoot then possession in same order as the fouls.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by offici88

I'm confusing successive with double. Double T would be POI, right?

Since this was one then the other, shoot then possession in same order as the fouls.

Right. A double-T would be no free throws and POI to resume play.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by offici88

I'm confusing successive with double. Double T would be POI, right?

Since this was one then the other, shoot then possession in same order as the fouls.

Classic false double foul.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

My true life example of a Flagrant Personal Foul (FPF) occured in the late 1990's in a pool play game in an AAU Boys' 12U National Championship Tournament in Cocoa Beach, Florida.

A1 goes airborne to attempt a three-point field goal when B1 one comes out to cover A1 and punches A1 in what MTD, Jr. and his brother, Andy, refer to as the 'reserved parking space' while A1 is still airborne. A1's field goal attempt is successful and B1 is relegated to the bench for the rest of the game.

MTD, Sr.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Classic false double foul.

Yep, and that's how it was administered.

Two FT's for A1's intentional attempted by the replacement for B1
Two FT's for B1's flagrant T attempted by an "A" player chosen by coach
A gets the ball for throw in at the division line

all FT's administered with the lanes cleared

[Ignats75]

I don't have my books handy, but wouldn't A get the ball on B's endline. A flagrant foul is not necessarily a T. Therefore, the ball would be inbounded at the nearest point to the foul.? Or am I just confused on the definition?