Flagrant foul
I would like to understand the line between a flagrant and a regular technical foul.
What are some examples of flagrant fouls that you have called or seen? Or general guidance is appreciated. Clearly when this flagrant situation comes up I would like to hit it decisively, without hesitation. |
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I saw your other post, are you a new referee? |
I'm a second year, and I just want to be very decisive (and sell) any intentional or flagrant calls. I have not had to call either yet.
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A flagrant foul is a foul of a violent or savage nature. It involves at the very least violent contact such as striking, kicking or kneeing. If it occurs during a dead ball (flagrant technical) it can even include conduct that was non-contact but is extreme, persistent, vulgar or abusive.
I'm paraphrasing the NF rulebook. I usually will call one if the contact was intended to injure or showed an utter disregard for the fouled player's safety. |
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The key word is "excessive? If that was true, then how come the definition of an intentional foul in rule 4-19-3 states that it's "excessive contact with an opponent"? Methinks it might not be a bad idea if you were to actually learn some of the basic rules before answering questions. |
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Let's say that a player gets fouled hard on a layup, and picks up the ball and throws it at the offender? One player says to an opponent or official, "Fxxx you". |
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If the player throws the ball hard, perhaps in an intent to injure, probably. If he flips it in a taunting way, just a T. If a player says F-you directly to someone, likely flagrant (can't think of a situation where it wouldn't be right now, but never say never/always). |
I've called two, one technical, one personal.
1. Player said, "Ref's are cheating their a**es off." I actually was not sure what he said and was going to ignore him. But he repeated himself, obviously wanted me to hear him. 2. Player picked up the ball, holding it in both hands. He then made a big roundhouse swing, contacting the defender on the jaw, laying him out on the floor. |
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Examples...let's see.....
Player trapped in back court and didn't like it when my partner called him for traveling - when I asked him for the ball he turned and threw it directly at me at head level as hard as he could from about 10 feet away .....it got better.... when I reported the flagrant & resulting DQ, his coach came yelling and screaming onto the court, earning himself a T from my partner! Player going for layup on a fast break - defender takes him out from behind and both go crashing to the floor. As I whistle and indicate intentional foul, player that was fouled rolls over and deliberately kicks the kid who fouled him. |
Aside from fighting (the obvious), I'll give you an example.
2nd quarter of a BF game, B1 shoves a breakaway shooter from behind. I hit him with the intentional. Early in the 4th quarter, B1 does it again; this time with a smaller shooter. B1 is 6-2 250 and the shooter was about 5-8 150. Not only did he shove him in the back, he wound up and shoved "through" him. The intent was obvious, and my partner went immediately to the flagrant call. His parents weren't happy. Apparently, his dad tried to get to our locker room after the game. Then, his mom called the school (game admin was a varsity official in our association) and complained that they (the home school) and the officials were depriving her son of his right to play ball (due to the one game suspension that comes with a flagrant foul). |
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Obviously we'll shoot free throws for both teams in the order the fouls occurred (with a replacement player for B). Does this go to AP? POI or mid-court? I'll register my guess as AP at mid-court. |
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Huh? After the free throws for a technical foul, the shooting team gets the ball at midcourt, opposite table. |
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