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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:54pm
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The upward force of the ball (due to the hard dribble preceding it) makes it appear as if the ball has come to rest in his hand, but it's not the case, IMO.
It's just a high dribble, perfectly legal in spite of what you hear from the fans.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:01pm
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I guess I'm in the minority then because I do think the ball comes to rest in his hand. I would call traveling here.
Explain to me how a ball can come to rest in a hand when the hand is not under the ball....

Call a travel here, be prepared to call a Tech on the coach and be prepared to discuss this with your partners who have to be on the floor with you.

Just because plays look odd/strange/etc does not make them illegal.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:09pm
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Explain to me how a ball can come to rest in a hand when the hand is not under the ball....

Call a travel here, be prepared to call a Tech on the coach and be prepared to discuss this with your partners who have to be on the floor with you.

Just because plays look odd/strange/etc does not make them illegal.
Being 6'6" and having a huge hand...uhh, that would be palming the ball (i.e. using the upward force of the ball from the dribble to palm/grab the ball and control it) Get the idea? so, I can take a ball, dribble it and catch it in one hand without putting my hand underneath it... then I can move it laterally/horizontally as I wish... That would be a carry or end of dribble without putting my hand under the ball, as the ball has come to rest in my hand

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:07pm
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I guess I'm in the minority then because I do think the ball comes to rest in his hand. I would call traveling here.
You cannot call a travel when a player is dribbling. That is impossible under the rules. If you said it was a carry/palming, I could at least go there with you on some level because that is a judgment issue. Just understand that you will be judged by your judgment to make these calls. It is much worse to call something that is not supported by rule at all.

And you do not have brand new officials saying this to you. Take me out of this, these are pretty veteran and experienced officials saying you are not using the proper rules on this.

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being of the opinion that the palm/carry is ignored far too often, I was fully prepared to find a violation here and I did not.

In the real world, he's not gonna be able to dribble the ball that high in traffic. To make the direction changes made here during what we used to call a "city dribble" would probably result in a carry. But he didn't do it here.

Them there chairs played lousy defense and I'm not giving them the ball.
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4.15.4 SITUATION B: A1, while advancing the ball by dribbling, manages to
keep a hand in contact with the ball until it reaches its maximum height. A1 maintains
such contact as the ball descends, pushing it to the floor at the last moment;
however, after six or seven bounces, A1’s hand is in contact with the ball and the
palm of the hand on this particular dribble is skyward so that the ball is resting
on top of the hand. RULING: The dribble has ended and a violation occurs if A1
dribbles again. The dribble ended when the ball came to rest in the palm of A1’s
hand. (9-5)
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