Scorers' Table Setup

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Who cares where they sit? A recommendation is not a requirement. As long as there's a home book and a clock, let's play.

I happen to care where they sit. If at all possible, I want the official scorer next to the official timer. Then I want the visitor book next to the official scorer. In my opinion, it significantly decreases the chances of errors/discrepancies between the books.

I don't get worked up about it at sub-V games, but if I'm the R on V games I always ask them to do it this way. If nothing else, this request lets them know I'm serious about them doing a good job and expect them to communicate with each other throughout the game.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

If at all possible, I want the official scorer next to the official timer.

In a varsity game, have you ever noticed that the official scorer did not sit next to the official timer? Have you ever had to jump in there and move people around to make this happen?

As far as the visiting scorekeeper, if they want to sit closer to their bench and that happens to not be next to the home scorekeeper, that's fine with me.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Smitty

In a varsity game, have you ever noticed that the official scorer did not sit next to the official timer? Have you ever had to jump in there and move people around to make this happen?

As far as the visiting scorekeeper, if they want to sit closer to their bench and that happens to not be next to the home scorekeeper, that's fine with me.

The scorer almost always sits by the timer. But I prefer for the books to also sit next to each other and ask them to do so if the table setup allows it.

And before Nevada steps in and tells me I have no authority to make them do so, I understand that. But I ask them to and explain my reason. It's worked very well for me so far.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

The scorer almost always sits by the timer. But I prefer for the books to also sit next to each other and ask them to do so if the table setup allows it.

And before Nevada steps in and tells me I have no authority to make them do so, I understand that. But I ask them to and explain my reason. It's worked very well for me so far.

Okay, good for you. I just hope that you don't run into an upset AD who comes over and asks why you are asking the table personnel to move around instead of sitting in the place which he/she designated for each of them.

[JoeT]

Back when it was my job, I used to also supply copies of "instructions for scorers" and "instructions for timers" in sheet protectors at the table. I had a simplified version of the instructions that I culled from the "full" versions....

[Scratch85]

My only preference is that the scorer sit behind the big "X" on the floor.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

My only preference is that the scorer sit behind the big "X" on the floor.

Don't they get in the way when you're at Xavier?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JoeT

Back when it was my job, I used to also supply copies of "instructions for scorers" and "instructions for timers" in sheet protectors at the table. I had a simplified version of the instructions that I culled from the "full" versions....

For the past few years I've been doing scoreboard/timer & shot clock, I've had copies of "Instructions To & Duties of the Scorers" & Instructions To & Duties to the Timers", as well as the current copy of the WIAA Shot Clock Operation Instructions with me at all times.

The one big problem, however is when those doing books are high school students & the only person they'll listen to is the coach. Unfortunately at the same time, those same HS students doing book, have either a cell phone glued to their hand or friends sitting with them.

Generally at my alma mater, there is no specified setup asked for from the AD for the table, it's however the table sees it fit.

Copy of Instructions To & Duties of Scorers & Timers of Basketball Games:
http://www.nfhs.org/Workarea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=2867

Copy of the WIAA Shot Clock Operation Instructions:
http://wiaa.com/ConDocs/Con133/Shot%...Rules%20_2.pdf

[Smitty]

At the sub-varsity level, you are lucky to get a conscious human being to do the book and the clock. You get what you get. I will not allow the official scorer/timer to be on the phone during my games. If I notice there are people distracting the scorer/timer, I will make the distractions leave the area. You do the best you can with what you are given. At the varsity level, the table crew is usually pretty good. You strike me as a little more fanatical about the job than normal.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The one big problem, however is when those doing books are high school students & the only person they'll listen to is the coach. Unfortunately at the same time, those same HS students doing book, have either a cell phone glued to their hand or friends sitting with them.

In NV the timer and scorer for all HS games are required to be adults.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by louisuuitt

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I've got Egyptian hieroglyphics showing up on my monitor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've got Egyptian hieroglyphics showing up on my monitor.

Don't get them wet.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Okay, good for you. I just hope that you don't run into an upset AD who comes over and asks why you are asking the table personnel to move around instead of sitting in the place which he/she designated for each of them.

And I'll be happy to explain to an upset AD that it's his decision, here are my reasons why I'd prefer the layout as requested, and go from there. I can handle adult conversations.

I find that administrators are normally appreciative of officials who want games to go as smoothly as possible.

[Freddy]

Last Friday the home team had the timer in the middle, the visiting book next to him, then the official book at the end closest the home team. I didn't like it, but my R didn't particularly see a need to shift things around. Nothing came of it, though it seemed goofy to report fouls to a person at the end of the table instead of a person towards the middle.
I'd prefer the official book next to the timer, as the manual suggests. I'd also wish the official scorer would wear stripes. Easier to report to, and it would more fully visualize the fact that the scorer is a neutral entity.

[Adam]

I have never had a scorer wearing stripes. I personally don't care where anyone sits; I'll find out who the official scorer is prior to the game anyway, so it all works out.