Continuous Motion?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Again, I never argued who was right or wrong, but I did ask for some sort of citation (case/rule/interp) and one has not been produced yet. I'm even willing to entertain someone stringing together a few rules to draw a conclusion.

Entertain this.....

1) A player is trying for goal when " when the player has the ball and in the official's judgment is throwing or attempting to throw for goal." Rule 4-41-2

2) If the player "has" the ball, the player is holding the ball and has player control. Rule 4-12-1.

3) In this situation, the player loses player control on either (a) the ball being in flight during a try (4-12-6) or because of a loose ball caused by an opponent' touch(9-5-2). Your choice, News.

4) In both cases in #3, the player re-gains player control when he/she again grabs the ball. Rule 4-12-1.

5) If you judged...and this is a judgment call.....that the player attempted a try and the ball then touched a defender as in 3a above, then the try ended when it was certain that it was unsuccessful. Rule 4-41-4. And it was certain that it was unsuccessful when the shooter again established player control by grabbing the ball before it went in the basket(4-12-1).

6) If you alternatively judged that the shooter lost player control during the try because of the loose ball caused by an opponent's touch, foul or partial block as in 3b above, that try also ended when the shooter again grabbed the loose ball, thus making certain the initial try was unsuccessful(4-41-4).

7) In both cases, the shooter after retrieving the loose ball(thus re-establishing player control) can legally come down with the ball or shoot/pass before he/she comes down.Case book play 9.5.1.

8) And also in both scenarios, if a foul was called on the defense before the try ended with the shooter re-gaining player control, the ball was dead as soon as that try ended and any subsequent try would be no good(you can't score with a dead ball-rule 5-1-1). See Rules 6-7-7 and 6-7EXCEPTIONa&c.