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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 06:16pm
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Actually had this happen last week.

Jeff, the reason you haven't seen it was because it happened in a girls' game.
LOL!!! If that is the case, then you likely do not have the height disparity.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 06:23pm
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LOL!!! If that is the case, then you likely do not have the height disparity.
Haven't seen many girls' games have you?

Actually, it ended up being a 5'8" forward jumping against a 5'2' guard. So, it wasn't close - the forward barely moved, while the guard tried hard.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 06:27pm
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Haven't seen many girls' games have you?

Actually, it ended up being a 5'8" forward jumping against a 5'2' guard. So, it wasn't close - the forward barely moved, while the guard tried hard.
No and I do not intend to.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 06:39pm
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The only time I've ever had this is in a girls middle school game.
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For one its not something you see every game...as others have mentioned its never happened to them and I've seen it once in the seven years I've been officiating. Also, more than likely the two best jumpers are already jumping anyway. Combine this with the fact that more than likely players are matched up against similar players at the original jump and any tie up, which we've determined anecdotally happens rarely, would more than likely be between two such similar players and hence a rule change for this purpose would be just for the sake of change.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 08:23pm
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It's better than a coin toss.
No it isn't.

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Not according to BillyMac who I'm sure will be along shortly to voice his opinion!
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From the dawn of time, or even before that, back when Billy started officiating.
Wrong. I started officiating a few weeks after the dawn of time. Adam and Eve needed a third official in their crew. That's right, the three of us invented three person mechanics. The serpent couldn't pass the floor exam.

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I believe there was a jump after every made basket. I'll wait on Billy to confirm.
Sorry. I don't really go back that far. The post about Adam and Eve was just my juvenile attempt at humor. Now, regarding the jump ball after every basket, Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will probably be along in a few minutes. He's the guy who can answer your question. He actually helped Dr. Naismith with the first draft of his thirteen rules. It's true. Really.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 08:36pm
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I have had the jump after every basket confirmed to me by a credible source. I believe also that much earlier days of the game, a jump ball could be tossed anywhere on the floor. But that I have not had confirmed by a credible source.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 09:23pm
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My dad told me about playing ball in the late '20's, early '30's and they jumped after each basket. When I was playing in the early '60's we jumped each tie ball (wasn't called a held ball then). If you were near the basket, you jumped at the free throw line. Further out, you jumped at center court. Oddest matchup I saw was a 5'8" guard jumping against a 6'5" center. The guard won by a hand!
This is also the time women's games were half court, 3 guards at one end and 3 forwards at the other. No crossing that center line!
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This is also the time women's games were half court, 3 guards at one end and 3 forwards at the other. No crossing that center line!
1938: Two-court game with six players per team at all levels. A team is three guards and three forwards. Only forwards can score but all players are part of action

1961: Each team is permitted two players to roam the entire court.

1971: Five-player, full-court game (not Iowa or Oklahoma).

1993: Iowa finally gives up the six-player game.

1995: Oklahoma is last state to switch.
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Iowa was playing both in the late 70's, the schools had a choice through the 92-93 season.
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