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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 02:11pm
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This is not by the rule book, I have no citations, and a lot of Forum members are going to give me a hard time regarding my answer, but here it is. If I deem that the air horn caused the shooter to miss, I'm calling it disconcertion, and I'm giving the visitors another free throw. Yes, I know that the rule states that no opponent, including bench personnel, may disconcert the free thrower, and I know that fans are not opponents, but this was an unsporting act, and I'm going to use common sense and use 2-3.

OK guys. I'm ready. Give me your best shot.
I don't think you can go there. What's the difference between the horn and a loud, shrill, piercing scream, or whistle, or whatever?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 02:14pm
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I don't think you can go there. What's the difference between the horn and a loud, shrill piercing scream, or whistle, or whatever isn't artificial?
There, fixed it for ya!
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 02:19pm
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There, fixed it for ya!
Some people can whistle really loud without using anything artificial.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 02:24pm
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Some people can whistle really loud without using anything artificial.
LOL DUH!!!!!!!!!!! Narrow minded....for some reason I was only thinking of a good old Fox 40 or old metal pea whistle in the crowd.

Good point... my fault.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 03:42pm
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Some people can whistle really loud without using anything artificial.
My point would be the original noise was a artificial noise maker. None of yours were artificial. that would be a difference for me to lean twords(?) giving the guy another shot
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 03:49pm
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My point would be the original noise was a artificial noise maker. None of yours were artificial. that would be a difference for me to lean towards(?) giving the guy another shot
Got it.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 03:50pm
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Got it.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 04:22pm
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My point would be the original noise was a artificial noise maker. None of yours were artificial. that would be a difference for me to lean twords(?) giving the guy another shot
My point is that the artificial noisemaker is no more likely to disrupt the shot than a naturally produced noise at the proper time. I see the call as a T or nothing. I see no way to award another free throw.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 04:22pm
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If you can make the same sounds, save yourself the money and don't buy the ILLEGAL item and bring it to a game. There is no rule against makin noise, just artificialy. I think we are saying the same thing. We cannot give another shot per rule.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 06:52pm
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Once, I had a coach jokingly ask me to call disconcertion when an opposing player along the free throw line loudly passed gas just when his player was taking his shot. The shot missed. I jokingly told the coach I could call it only if the player used an artificial noisemaker, but that they couldn't pay me enough to check.
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