Partner tosses coach

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Vinski

What is the rational for not tapping it back to the thrower in say a varsity game?

Agreed younger kids can get a lift here. But for varsity, would you tap it back to a passer who's inbounds, say in a half-court set, and mistakenly flips it your way? There's your answer.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Agreed younger kids can get a lift here. But for varsity, would you tap it back to a passer who's inbounds, say in a half-court set, and mistakenly flips it your way? There's your answer.

I don't think the two situations are similar.

I have had this happen in girls V games more than once. I don't tap it back "to them" but I do let it hit me or stop it with my hand before it hits me and continue (or start) my count. After all, hitting an official is just like hitting the floor and a player (after a goal) can run the end line, pass along the endline, dribble and do almost anything they want for 5 seconds.

[Back In The Saddle]

I don't see why I should dodge the ball or just let it hit me. I do not need to touch the ball after a made basket, but the rules do not prohibit me touching it. The player gains no advantage by tossing me the ball, he may even lose a fast break opportunity. Nobody is going to get surprised because the official unwittingly participated in a "trick play".

I'm there to facilitate the game. So if a kid has a brain fart and tosses me the ball after a made basket, I just toss it back to him and we go on. If it happens again, I'd probably talk to the kid at a break. But why would I make any kind of issue of it?

[grunewar]

I too am from the camp of either sticking my hand out and allowing the ball hit it and drop straight down or just flicking it back to the player. I am more likely to say something like, "I don't need it after a basket" if they are young (sub Freshman HS).

I must admit, it never occurred to me to purposely move out of the way and let the ball go.

[Mark Padgett]

Years ago, I was watching the end of a game, waiting for my shift to start. I saw one of the officials jump out of the way of the ball in this situation. After the game, I asked him why he did it. He said it was just a reflex, the same as he does if the ball comes towards him on the court. He just couldn't help reacting that way.

Sounded logical to me.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Years ago, I was watching the end of a game, waiting for my shift to start. I saw one of the officials jump out of the way of the ball in this situation. After the game, I asked him why he did it. He said it was just a reflex, the same as he does if the ball comes towards him on the court. He just couldn't help reacting that way.

Sounded logical to me.

I like this answer.

it isn't the way I react, probably because my reflexes won't allow me, but "it is what is is." Whether we (they) like it or not, we are part of the game. Sometimes our actions are genius and sometimes our actions are . . . something else. But this sitch is not a big deal on anyones chart and whatever works, works. Not to mention there aren't any rules prohibiting it.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I don't see why I should dodge the ball or just let it hit me. I do not need to touch the ball after a made basket, but the rules do not prohibit me touching it. The player gains no advantage by tossing me the ball, he may even lose a fast break opportunity. Nobody is going to get surprised because the official unwittingly participated in a "trick play".

I'm there to facilitate the game. So if a kid has a brain fart and tosses me the ball after a made basket, I just toss it back to him and we go on. If it happens again, I'd probably talk to the kid at a break. But why would I make any kind of issue of it?

Great advice, especially at that level.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Great advice, especially at that level.

Just to be clear, this is my philosophy at any level I work. I had this happen in a college women's game recently (I'm sure it was their first game of the season) and just tossed it back to the lady.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Just to be clear, this is my philosophy at any level I work. I had this happen in a college women's game recently (I'm sure it was their first game of the season) and just tossed it back to the lady.

I agree 100%.

[jdmara]

Wow Mark this is like Déjà vu! I had a player in the men's league on Sunday attempt to throw the ball to me after a made basket. Granted there are no coaches to be tossed but he had a coronary as to why I didn't go chase after the ball as it whizzed by me. Ok, maybe it's not déjà vu.

If I can knock the ball down without losing sight of what I should be looking at (ie the players), I make an attempt. There are, in fact, only a few times where I can say that the ball got passed me. Well Sunday, the guy threw the ball well behind me after a made free throw. I attempted to take a swipe at it and barely touched the ball. The ball proceeded to go into the corner of the gym. I calmly started my count. Granted, I could have violated him (5 seconds easily passed) but I chose to let him get the ball in (as it didn't effect the game). I told him as we went up the court that he doesn't need to throw the ball to me on a made basket. He proceeded to whine that I could have threw it back. I replied that "if I run after the ball, who is watching the players?" The light bulb clicked and didn't hear another word about it.

-Josh

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I don't see why I should dodge the ball or just let it hit me. I do not need to touch the ball after a made basket, but the rules do not prohibit me touching it. The player gains no advantage by tossing me the ball, he may even lose a fast break opportunity. Nobody is going to get surprised because the official unwittingly participated in a "trick play".

I'm there to facilitate the game. So if a kid has a brain fart and tosses me the ball after a made basket, I just toss it back to him and we go on. If it happens again, I'd probably talk to the kid at a break. But why would I make any kind of issue of it?

Strongly agree, especially at this level 5th-6th. In some cases in my area a kid's fifth grade year may be their first year of organized basketball. Mark's partner sounds a little to over zealous for this level of play. Glad he tossed the coach.

[Back In The Saddle]

I agree about tossing the coach.

[Pirate]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

So if a kid has a brain fart and tosses me the ball after a made basket, I just toss it back to him and we go on. If it happens again, I'd probably talk to the kid at a break. But why would I make any kind of issue of it?

Agreed