shot clock test question

[mutantducky]

well I got this one wrong. I even have an old test with the other answer circled. Is this right? I picked B, not reset.

The alternating-possession arrow is pointed to the White Team. White #10 attempts a try for goal with 10-seconds left on the shot clock and the ball misses the rim. White #55 and Blue #45 both grab the ball at the same time creating a held ball.
Correct (A) The White Team is awarded the throw-in and the shot clock will be reset.


Reference(s): Handbook: Shot Clock Rules; Rule Book 4-41-2; 4-12-3; 6-4-3

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

well I got this one wrong. I even have an old test with the other answer circled. Is this right? I picked B, not reset.

The alternating-possession arrow is pointed to the White Team. White #10 attempts a try for goal with 10-seconds left on the shot clock and the ball misses the rim. White #55 and Blue #45 both grab the ball at the same time creating a held ball.
Correct (A) The White Team is awarded the throw-in and the shot clock will be reset.


Reference(s): Handbook: Shot Clock Rules; Rule Book 4-41-2; 4-12-3; 6-4-3

You don't reset because possesion didn't change. The test is wrong.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

well I got this one wrong. I even have an old test with the other answer circled. Is this right? I picked B, not reset.

The alternating-possession arrow is pointed to the White Team. White #10 attempts a try for goal with 10-seconds left on the shot clock and the ball misses the rim. White #55 and Blue #45 both grab the ball at the same time creating a held ball.
Correct (A) The White Team is awarded the throw-in and the shot clock will be reset.


Reference(s): Handbook: Shot Clock Rules; Rule Book 4-41-2; 4-12-3; 6-4-3

The answer might depend on whether this is NCAAM or NCAAW.

4-11.7: ...continue without a reset when: i. afyter a ... held ball occurs during a throw-in or (women) after an unsuccessful try that does not contact the ring or flange and the AP arrow favors the throw-in team

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The answer might depend on whether this is NCAAM or NCAAW.

4-11.7: ...continue without a reset when: i. afyter a ... held ball occurs during a throw-in or (women) after an unsuccessful try that does not contact the ring or flange and the AP arrow favors the throw-in team

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't realized that was a NCAA-W only rule.

On a related note, am I understanding this correctly? From the same rule...

Stop the timing device and continue time without a reset when play begins under the following circumstances:

j. After the ball goes out of bounds and was last touched simultaneously by two opponents, both of whom are either inbounds or out of bounds or when there is doubt as to who last touched the ball.

So if A has possession with 10 seconds left on the SC and A1 fumbles the ball after which A2 and B2 touch it simultaneously before it goes OOB, whichever team is awarded the ball using the AP, that team has only the remaining 10 seconds? Even if it is B?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

So if A has possession with 10 seconds left on the SC and A1 fumbles the ball after which A2 and B2 touch it simultaneously before it goes OOB, whichever team is awarded the ball using the AP, that team has only the remaining 10 seconds? Even if it is B?

While the rule could be better written, it only applies if A gets the ball back.

[dahoopref]

In NCAA-M, there is no team control during a shot.

Therefore, when W-55 and B-45 grabbed the ball with no team control the shot clock must be reset.

That being said, if the calling official can "sell" that W-55 grabbed and had possession of the ball ever so slightly first before B-45 did, then there would be no reset of the clock.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

In NCAA-M, there is no team control during a shot.

Is there in NCAAW? Why the difference?

To me, it does not seem equitable to reset in this situation (I know what I think doesn't matter). If the shot clock is around 1-2 seconds, it makes more sense for B to let it go, than to grab it and risk a tie up and a reset for A. Doesn't make much sense... Also a once every million games type situation...

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The answer might depend on whether this is NCAAM or NCAAW.

4-11.7: ...continue without a reset when: i. afyter a ... held ball occurs during a throw-in or (women) after an unsuccessful try that does not contact the ring or flange and the AP arrow favors the throw-in team

In NCAA-W, the clock does not reset because the possesion does not change.