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[dsturdy5]

A few questions/points to ponder...

1. When you recommended the player be suspended, is this standard protocal for this league?

2. Who is the game management at these games? I've worked rec and even some travel league games where there is none and we are expected to be GM (fairly or unfairly). I find that leagues with visible and approachable GM are the ones I tend to take games from first and foremost.

3. Do things like this happen regularly during games in this league? If so, you may wish to drop this league from your list of leagues to work.

4. Do things like this happen regularly (or more than a few times a year) in games you work? I'm not asking this to say it is all your fault, heavens knows coaches, players, and parents can be absolute jerks a lot of the times and need to be dealt with, but think about IF it is happening more than it seems is appropriate in your games. Can YOU do you anything differently?

5. I have had a similar post game exchange with a player (5th grader!) and his dad, but I did what someone else suggested. I just recorded the technical with the table and the game was over, the dad came over after the game (I had another) and he hit the roof. I was young like you, probably about 25.

I called the assignor, this parent had called him first and filled his head with lies. My partner stuck by me (as did the rest of the people in the gym) and in the end the kid was punished for his actions (something in the area of 10 technicals during the season...again 5th grade!), the parent was suspended for the next game, and the league wrote new rules regarding behavior for parents, players, and coaches effective immediately.


The best advice I have for dealing with confrontational parents is what someone else here once told me. "Silence cannot be quoted." In the end, do what works for you and what is right for the situation. If sarcasm works, use it. If you need to be stern, do it. If you have to walk away, that is what you do. There is no fix-all.

[Tio]

I agree with other posters in that you should stay away from recommending suspensions. Penalize the actions, follow whatever documentation process the league has in place and let them make the decision.

Stay away from parents. They are biased observers. In this field half love our call and the other half hates it.... biased parties have difficulty seeing the reality... whether we got the play right. Nothing good can happen from the interaction.

If the team had 2 #11s, by rule it is a technical foul. Unless the rules specifically state to the contrary or provide an exception for this, call the T.... the coach who has been a pain is down 20, so no harm done. By not adjudicating the rules, you have opened yourself to objectivity and consistency claims... ie only enforcing the rules we choose to tonight.... we need to remember that our job is to "ensure the fairness of the contest" by enforcing the 'rules.'

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Tio

If the team had 2 #11s, by rule it is a technical foul. Unless the rules specifically state to the contrary or provide an exception for this, call the T.... the coach who has been a pain is down 20, so no harm done. By not adjudicating the rules, you have opened yourself to objectivity and consistency claims... ie only enforcing the rules we choose to tonight.... we need to remember that our job is to "ensure the fairness of the contest" by enforcing the 'rules.'

In rec ball, I wouldn't call it. Varsity? Easy call.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In rec ball, I wouldn't call it. Varsity? Easy call.

So I'm doing a mens wreck league the other night & one player (who sweats a lot) soaked his shirt near the end of the 2nd half, so he took it off & went skins.

The opposing team went nuts (a couple of I ref too players on that team). "You know that's a T, call the game right ref."

Mind you, this demand is coming from a team with multiple #21s, wearing black, navy blue & royal blue jerseys

Come on 11/30!!

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

So I'm doing a mens wreck league the other night & one player (who sweats a lot) soaked his shirt near the end of the 2nd half, so he took it off & went skins.

The opposing team went nuts (a couple of I ref too players on that team). "You know that's a T, call the game right ref."

Mind you, this demand is coming from a team with multiple #21s, wearing black, navy blue & royal blue jerseys

Come on 11/30!!

Classic story Ch1town!

I had several occasions this yr in Rec Ball where the teams where "pennies" that got mixed up so teams have multiple same numbers. Most coaches try to put a "1" in front of the "2" or "3" with masking tape or medical tape to make them "12" and "13".....which eventually peels off when soaked through and then falls off.... and who has to police this up. Sure, me. Then where are we? Back where we started.

Once, after discussing with the coaches and table I was relegated to saying to the table when reporting something like: "Red, 3, Black, Hold." To identify the Red "#3" was the "black" player as opposed to the "white" #3......

Ain't Rec Leagues fun?

[rsl]

In the "dumb things from coaches" category, I was doing a rec league game with uniform problems, and a team had both a 0 and a 00. I informed the coach and his reply was

"What's wrong with that? 1 and 11 aren't the same number!"

Trouble was, he wasn't joking. He really didn't get it.