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Old Thu Aug 20, 2009, 07:38am
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Oh I hear you. I make more money with rec ball than I would HS actually and I havnt got certified cause I go to a lot of college camps and am working my way up. Much rather do that than HS.
Based on your description of your evening I would say you still have a lot to learn about officiating. I'm not talking about the inappropriate behavior and action of the players, coaches, and parents. I'm talking about how you described the evening. Especially the part where you requested that a player get suspended.

You need to get certified and really learn about the art and science of officiating.
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Old Thu Aug 20, 2009, 08:21am
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Based on your description of your evening I would say you still have a lot to learn about officiating. I'm not talking about the inappropriate behavior and action of the players, coaches, and parents. I'm talking about how you described the evening. Especially the part where you requested that a player get suspended.

You need to get certified and really learn about the art and science of officiating.
I can see where you're coming from, because it shouldn't be our position to make such requests, however, in some leagues (and I did a YMCA league that was like this), the officials are considered employees (have to submit background checks and child abuse registry checks) but are not paid like employees (taxes are not withheld). In such leagues, the director will still expect some kind of enforcement similar to what happened in the OP, that the official may make the request to have someone suspended because of their actions. I actually had a situation where I tossed a parent during the game (yes, I know, we're not supposed to listen to them, but it was very confined quarters and he was inches from me when he berated me) and when the director came over to escort him out, the director asked me if it was just for the day or if he needed to wait a couple weeks. I told her it was up to her, and she then asked how about he doesn't come back next week. I said that's fine, but entirely up to you. Afterwards, she told me to get a backbone and make the decision myself. When I tried to tell her that's not my position to take as an official, she "corrected" me and told me that was the expectation of her officials. That ended up being the last time I worked at that YMCA.
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Old Thu Aug 20, 2009, 08:49am
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You asked for feedback, so I'll offer my $.02.

It sounds like you let the coach get away with way too much yapping. If he's questioning every call all year, he got away with way too much. Stop that early, and you'll be surprised how the players respond. Maybe not this game, but the next one anyway.

Also, with the player spouting off after the game; calmly walk to the table and have the scorer record a technical foul on said player. He now has two for this game, and most likely, you do not have to request a suspension as it will be automatic (depending on league rules).

Where was the site manager during all this? There is no excuse for them to allow the parents and the coach to berate you like that after a game. This stuff can (and has) turn violent, so you need to just walk away, get in your car, and drive home. And I'd be on the phone with the assigner before I even got out of the parking lot. "Better site management or I'm not coming back."
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