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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 08:39pm
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Good call.

"Coach, they can block out, but they can't push the player out of position."
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 10:01pm
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Yes coaches teach this and yes they are incorrect. A player is entitled to the spot on the floor and if he is moved by a player from the opposing team displacement has occurred. GREAT CALL!!
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 10:10pm
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IMHO I'd caution against making this call unless we're talking about displacement that happens to end up in the (proverbial) bleachers, not the 2-3 feet (which is what a step or so) as described in the OP.
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Old Fri Jun 19, 2009, 04:21am
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IMHO I'd caution against making this call unless we're talking about displacement that happens to end up in the (proverbial) bleachers, not the 2-3 feet (which is what a step or so) as described in the OP.


It is because of that kind of thinking that rough play persists in HS basketball and that NFHS must issue POEs so frequently on displacement and other forms of it.

Why would you caution against making a completely correct call that the people who govern HS basketball desire? Could it be because you don't want to risk upsetting the coaches? Do you fear getting blacklisted by schools? Do you like the rough tactics that are now common in basketball?
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Old Fri Jun 19, 2009, 09:20am
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IMHO I'd caution against making this call unless we're talking about displacement that happens to end up in the (proverbial) bleachers, not the 2-3 feet (which is what a step or so) as described in the OP.
I agree with Nevada. The trick, however, is to discern whether the player is being pushed or is simply giving ground as the inside player backs up.
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Old Fri Jun 19, 2009, 10:08am
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IMHO I'd caution against making this call unless we're talking about displacement that happens to end up in the (proverbial) bleachers, not the 2-3 feet (which is what a step or so) as described in the OP.
I think this is where good game management comes into play. The first occurence of this will probably be a no call unless rebound comes to that spot. I will find that player and we will communicate that is not acceptable play to displace the shooter. I will bang the next one on that team. If I am near the coach, I will ask for his help on the box out.

This diffuses the situation with the coach and players. If the first one takes the shooter to the ground, different situation. You earn credibility with players and coaches. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Old Fri Jun 19, 2009, 07:35am
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Good call.

"Coach, they can block out, but they can't push the player out of position."
Agree. I say something similar when asked, but avoid the term 'block out'. I'll say, "Coach, they can get position but not displace the other player."

Many coaches at lower levels don't know what 'block out' means and so are confused when you tell them that their players may block out but may not push an opponent out of position.
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Old Fri Jun 19, 2009, 09:19am
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Agree. I say something similar when asked, but avoid the term 'block out'. I'll say, "Coach, they can get position but not displace the other player."

Many coaches at lower levels don't know what 'block out' means and so are confused when you tell them that their players may block out but may not push an opponent out of position.
Good point, and I would only say that if the coach uses the term. My point is that "block out" does not mean "push."

Typically, I just say "he can't move him."

Or you could say, "Having inside position is not a license to push."
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