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Old Mon Jun 08, 2009, 01:30pm
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Massachusetts rules state we must during scholastic play.

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The Massachusetts Interscholatic Athletic Association has nothing to do with AAU basketball tournaments, therefore, I ask once again, why were the game officials still on the court watching the handshake line.

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The Massachusetts Interscholatic Athletic Association has nothing to do with AAU basketball tournaments, therefore, I ask once again, why were the game officials still on the court watching the handshake line.

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The other point here, WRT MA basketball, is that this couldn't have been done under their rules. They have stripped the officials of this authority so that once the handshake begins technical fouls cannot be called. (That's how I read their little interpretation from Mary, anyway).
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The other point here, WRT MA basketball, is that this couldn't have been done under their rules. They have stripped the officials of this authority so that once the handshake begins technical fouls cannot be called. (That's how I read their little interpretation from Mary, anyway).
Now that is the dumbest thing possible. The officials have the authority to call the T until they leave the visual confines of the court. To have them stick around and not be able to do anything is an exercise in futility. HOW DUMB!!!!!!!!!!
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Now that is the dumbest thing possible. The officials have the authority to call the T until they leave the visual confines of the court. To have them stick around and not be able to do anything is an exercise in futility. HOW DUMB!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that someone from MA posted that while the officials can't assess technical fouls during the PGHS they can note any misbehavior in a report to the league/state office who will presumably hand down a fine or suspension of some kind.
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Below is taken directly from the MIAA site:


Prior to a full description of the post-game handshake protocol, it is important to review two rule interpretations which impact the ceremony:

NF Basketball Rule 2, Section 5, Article 7 has been adopted, “When the referee either signs the scorebook following the game, or when a non-verbal confirmation is exchanged between the referee and the official scorer, the score is then final and considered approved.” Thus, the post-game handshake will never impact the final score.

MIAA Sportsmanship Rule 49.8 states- “Fighting and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties will be within the authority of the official at all times at the contest site. The official’s authority extends to pre and post game oversight.” Implementation of this rule could have future consequences on the offender, but does not affect the final score.
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And the possibility of "future consequences" is not an acceptable trade, IMO, for losing the authority to issue a T.

Again, the dumbest rule in all of sports is the requirement of the officials to stick around for the post-game warm-fuzzies.
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And the possibility of "future consequences" is not an acceptable trade, IMO, for losing the authority to issue a T.

Again, the dumbest rule in all of sports is the requirement of the officials to stick around for the post-game warm-fuzzies.
But it would be cowardly and lazy for Mass. officials not to do.
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I'm all for sporting behavior, congratulating the victors and winning and losing with class. Generally, in our society that means a handshake. If one can't do that simple gesture then he/she doesn't belong in HS athletics, and should go play in the NBA.

Of course, safety and common sense have to prevail over tradition and formalities. If the situation isn't conducive to pleasant interaction, then get the heck out of there.
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The Massachusetts Interscholatic Athletic Association has nothing to do with AAU basketball tournaments, therefore, I ask once again, why were the game officials still on the court watching the handshake line.

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I understand that, I was just taking your comment in a vacuum that after a game is over, we are not always running off of the court (as much as I'd like to).

As for those who said there is always a place to go hide even in the gym, that is typically correct. Do your best to be unavailable in between games.
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