OOB or held ball?

[ma_ref]

Originally Posted by ysong

2 players from different teams firmly grab the ball, and while jugging for the sole control, 1 player loses his balance and has to move several steps and eventually goes OOB. The ball is still being held by both players, while 1 inbound and 1 OOB.

Rather than held ball/oob, why isn't this a travelling violation instead?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

Rather than held ball/oob, why isn't this a travelling violation instead?

Held Ball Definition says:

Rule 4-25-1, "A held ball occurs when.....opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness."

The player never falls without a struggle for the ball. How can you call a travel if you believe both individuals were struggling for the ball?

Peace

[ysong]

I assumed the "travelling" was out of the question because neither player had the control of the ball.

Interestingly, does that mean both players are free from the "travelling" restriction until one gets the control of the ball or the whistle is blown?

Thanks.

[JRutledge]

If both play is not in control of the ball, they cannot travel now can they? What do you want to call a double traveling violation?

Peace

[Reffing Rev.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If both play is not in control of the ball, they cannot travel now can they? What do you want to call a double traveling violation?

Peace

I don't want to work with the ref whose watching their feet.