Held Ball?

[IchiRef]

A1 is lying on the floor and has the ball in his arms. B1 reaches in and gets an entire hand on the ball and keeps it there for a while (one hand only) while A1 is making no attempt to pass the ball...I was patient to see how it developed (as i was unsure if held ball was correct), finally I called a held ball. right or wrong?

I am thinking wrong call.

Thanks

[Adam]

I'd probably have called this, too.

[Mark Padgett]

If that's not a held ball, what do you think the call should be? Or do you think it's a no call? Have you read the definition of a held ball in the rulebook?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

If that's not a held ball, what do you think the call should be? Or do you think it's a no call? Have you read the definition of a held ball in the rulebook?

I'm guessing the hang up is on the use of the word "hands", as in plural.

[IchiRef]

while I do not have the rule book with me, it is my understanding that a jump ball is to be called with the players share control and I wasn't sure whether one hand on the ball by one player meant both had control...

A1 jumps to release a shot, B3 blocks the ball (with 1 hand) so it doesn't leave A1s hands & he returns to the floor.

Results in a held ball not a travel.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

A1 jumps to release a shot, B3 blocks the ball (with 1 hand) so it doesn't leave A1s hands & he returns to the floor.

Results in a held ball not a travel.

I see this situation as very different. would it still result it a held ball if A1 was on the floor and passing?

[Adam]

Shared control is not necessary. If both players are prevented from gaining complete control without undue force, it's a held ball.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Shared control is not necessary. If both players are prevented from gaining complete control without undue force, it's a held ball.

thanks, this answers my question.

Originally Posted by IchiRef

I see this situation as very different. would it still result it a held ball if A1 was on the floor and passing?

Extremely different, but "1 hand" is what the 2 share in common.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but by your OP I thought that was the reason for your concern.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Extremely different, but "1 hand" is what the 2 share in common.

Only if they're conjoined twins.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Only if they're conjoined twins.

On opposing teams? :horror:

[cubsfanllw]

I had exactly the same thing last night in a VG game.

A1 has the ball laying on the floor in the frontcourt. B1 reaches in and puts one hand on it and just looks at me. I didn't see anything close to simultaneous possession. We all just sat there for what seemed like forever (maybe 2 seconds) and I finally called a held ball. Not sure what I should done (definitely not legal guarding position) and A1 was making no attempt to do anything with the ball. Something had to give.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by cubsfanllw

I had exactly the same thing last night in a VG game.

Conjoined twins? Were they wearing the same number?

Sorry - being from the South Side, I couldn't help teasing a Cubs fan.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

On opposing teams? :horror:

The school district boundary is divided top bunk and bottom bunk.