Duke vs. Villanova

[JRutledge]

Entertainment!!!

Peace

[jbduke]

Love it. A page of reasonable explanations for the "decline of Duke," something a couple of people actually asked about, and you guys come back with nothing but ad hominem crap.

Whatever.

If anyone wants to actually engage in something substantive, let's rock.

As for the "over-hype," what are you talking about? Name me one national writer/talking-head who has picked Duke to go to the Final Four, pre-season or post-Selection-Sunday, more than one year out of the last five. If your point is that they get too much exposure, well, that's a purely market-based phenomenon. Duke is televised more than anybody else because more people tune in to watch Duke than they do anyone else. And people watch Duke more than any other team because they care more about Duke than any other team. For most of the audience, they care about the opportunity to see Duke lose.

Those of the 'overhype school' usually argue that their dislike is born of over-exposure, but if Duke is over-exposed, it's because they're so hated.

NOBODY hates the Pittsburgh Pirates. And nobody would hate them even if ESPN and Fox both made the dubious decision to include the Pirates in every single one of their regular-season telecasts this season. The overexposure argument is a figleaf.

[canuckrefguy]

Dude.

This is a referee forum.

Go away.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jbduke

If Laettner misses the buzzer-beaters in '90 and '92 AND RICHARD "THE FIXER" PERRY DOESN'T CONVINCE LARRY JOHNSON AND SOME OF THE GUYS FROM UNLV TO THROW THAT SEMI-FINAL GAME IN 1991, the expectations over the last fifteen years are completely different, and this five-year stretch is much less of a story.

Fixed it for ya.

[26 Year Gap]

Fanboy.com

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Fanboy.com

FYI, I'm a referee. And a good one.

www.provincialrubes.com

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Actually I don't like Duke because I think that the media gives them too much coverage and over-hypes them. If they were good enough to deserve the press, then I wouldn't mind, but there are so many other programs who are deserving of that attention, and many of them out-perform Duke.

They aren't the gold-standard of anything. They are just a media darling.

That's why I root against them.

I don't like Dook cause I find K to be a vulgar, whiny douchebag and because of what Nevada says in the post I quoted. No place was that more evident than him commenting on Obama's picks.

Personally, I am beside myself with glee when the ACC loses, but never more so than when it's Dook.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by jbduke

FYI, I'm a referee. And a good one.

www.provincialrubes.com

Every year at this time we can count on you to be here extolling the virtues of Duke. Rarely see you otherwise.

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Every year at this time we can count on you to be here extolling the virtues of Duke. Rarely see you otherwise.

You must have some sort of fixation with me, because I haven't made a post-season post about Duke here in many years. The only reason I decided to post in this thread was because of what appeared to be a couple of sincere questions about Duke's recent post-season disappointments.

It's interesting to me how so many people who post here claim to be such paragons of basketball objectivity, but let the topic turn to Duke basketball and many of those same people turn into the most hateful and irrational of partisans.

And as for the Obama stuff, please. I'm only slightly to the left of Che, so I can't stand K's politics, but the Obama bit was a joke. Get over yourself.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by jbduke

You must have some sort of fixation with me, because I haven't made a post-season post about Duke here in many years. The only reason I decided to post in this thread was because of what appeared to be a couple of sincere questions about Duke's recent post-season disappointments.

It's interesting to me how so many people who post here claim to be such paragons of basketball objectivity, but let the topic turn to Duke basketball and many of those same people turn into the most hateful and irrational of partisans.

And as for the Obama stuff, please. I'm only slightly to the left of Che, so I can't stand K's politics, but the Obama bit was a joke. Get over yourself.

Don't think I have ever mentioned the prez. This thread is about to get locked up.

[Forksref]

If you don't like my team, you must hate my team.

How about, "I don't like your team."

A previous post pointed out the hypocritical vulgar coach of the team.

Could we please have more excuses about the decline of the dookies?

"If only...If only...If only...country first..." LOL

[OldFanDan]

Before anybody decides to give me the sobriquet 'fanboy' please realize that I was an accredited official for 11 years until a serious injury forced me to give it up.

I have a question for all the officials who are showing such disdain for Duke and their coach: If you were assigned to work a DUKE game would you work it, or would you turn it back into your assignor?

On one of my old boards we were allowed to list schools and / or coaches whose games we wouldn't work; on another board we did not have that option, and turning games back was frowned upon.

[Scrapper1]

Hey Dan, welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your injury. That's a lousy break.

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

I have a question for all the officials who are showing such disdain for Duke and their coach: If you were assigned to work a DUKE game would you work it, or would you turn it back into your assignor?

To be honest, I don't think your question really has anything to do with liking or not liking Duke or Coach K. Of course, NOBODY would turn back that game. I work at least 3 or 4 D3 college games per season with coaches that I don't particularly like on a personal level. But we keep it (mostly) professional during the game.

If you can't work with people who get under your skin, you can't be a basketball official.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OldFanDan

Before anybody decides to give me the sobriquet 'fanboy' please realize that I was an accredited official for 11 years until a serious injury forced me to give it up.

I have a question for all the officials who are showing such disdain for Duke and their coach: If you were assigned to work a DUKE game would you work it, or would you turn it back into your assignor?

On one of my old boards we were allowed to list schools and / or coaches whose games we wouldn't work; on another board we did not have that option, and turning games back was frowned upon.

Is this really a serious question?

Peace

[OldFanDan]

"Is this really a serious question?"

Absolutely a serious question.

I cannot fathom anybody working a game where they have stated that they 'hate' a coach or a program, but that they will be fair and impartial to that coach or program.

It's really not that hard to understand that such hatred would be a problem.