Duke vs. Villanova

[refguy]

Anybody else notice how Villanova got their 1st 2 buckets to start the game?
The officials got a rule completely wrong in allowing the 1st basket. The official called a foul away from the ball as his teammate was in the shooting motion (the foul occurred before the shooting motion and cleared the space for the rebounder-shooter to get to the ball). By rule, you must disallow the basket as it the ball was still in the shooter's hands when the whistle blew. The next basket was clearly basket interference - they showed a replay from above the basket. Quite a way to end a scoring drought at the beginning of a game.
It would be interesting to see if any of this crew advances since missing a rule, especially one that puts points on the board in most supervisor's eyes is a suspension.

[bas2456]

You're right on with the basket interference one...Coach K finally had a legit reason to gripe!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by refguy

Anybody else notice how Villanova got their 1st 2 buckets to start the game?
The officials got a rule completely wrong in allowing the 1st basket. The official called a foul away from the ball as his teammate was in the shooting motion (the foul occurred before the shooting motion and cleared the space for the rebounder-shooter to get to the ball). By rule, you must disallow the basket as it the ball was still in the shooter's hands when the whistle blew. The next basket was clearly basket interference - they showed a replay from above the basket. Quite a way to end a scoring drought at the beginning of a game.
It would be interesting to see if any of this crew advances since missing a rule, especially one that puts points on the board in most supervisor's eyes is a suspension.

I'm glad you started this thread as I thought they were mediocre at best. One in particular looked way over his pay grade for a stage this big. Some awful mechanics, questionable calls, and drama that made Hightower look like a freshman theater major.

I'm just so used to seeing top flight pros night after night, that this game jumped out at me. I think they are one and done.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'm glad you started this thread as I thought they were mediocre at best. One in particular looked way over his pay grade for a stage this big. Some awful mechanics, questionable calls, and drama that made Hightower look like a freshman theater major.

I'm just so used to seeing top flight pros night after night, that this game jumped out at me. I think they are one and done.

I have to agree with you; these guys looked like they were in over their heads. Their names are: JD Collins, Karl Hess, Mike Stuart.

Never heard of them.

[kwv001]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I have to agree with you; these guys looked like they were in over their heads. Their names are: JD Collins, Karl Hess, Mike Stuart.

Never heard of them.

Both JD Collins and Karl Hess were final four officials last year!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by kwv001

Both JD Collins and Karl Hess were final four officials last year!

Of the three, who was the shorter, stockier one? Had brown hair. He stood out. I thought the other two were OK.

[parker27]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I have to agree with you; these guys looked like they were in over their heads. Their names are: JD Collins, Karl Hess, Mike Stuart.

Never heard of them.

Never heard of them???? You must not pay much attention to the officials then. Karl Hess and J.D. Collins are all over the place during the year and during the post season. I didn't see the game, but from what you guys say there were some questionable calls....thats fine, but to say they were in over the heads is laughable.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by parker27

Never heard of them???? You must not pay much attention to the officials then. Karl Hess and J.D. Collins are all over the place during the year and during the post season. I didn't see the game, but from what you guys say there were some questionable calls....thats fine, but to say they were in over the heads is laughable.

Most regulars would recognize that I was being sarcastic. I just found it strange that someone posted that one of the officials looked way over his pay grade. These three guys are top notch. That does not mean they didn't miss a few last night.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Jay R

Most regulars would recognize that I was being sarcastic. I just found it strange that someone posted that one of the officials looked way over his pay grade. These three guys are top notch. That does not mean they didn't miss a few last night.

Strictly my humble opinion and it wasn't based on the quality of calls. As I mentioned earlier, from my lazyboy, one official in particular to me was having a bad night, you could sense it in his body language, mechanics, etc.

Hey, I'm just a high school official and by no means ripping these guys. I like watching the big dogs and try and learn from them. That said, they are on a big stage and open to opinions from here.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by refguy

Anybody else notice how Villanova got their 1st 2 buckets to start the game?
The officials got a rule completely wrong in allowing the 1st basket. The official called a foul away from the ball as his teammate was in the shooting motion (the foul occurred before the shooting motion and cleared the space for the rebounder-shooter to get to the ball). By rule, you must disallow the basket as it the ball was still in the shooter's hands when the whistle blew. The next basket was clearly basket interference - they showed a replay from above the basket. Quite a way to end a scoring drought at the beginning of a game.
It would be interesting to see if any of this crew advances since missing a rule, especially one that puts points on the board in most supervisor's eyes is a suspension.

There was a very bad basket interference call against UConn also...really bad.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

There was a very bad basket interference call against UConn also...really bad.

There was also a held ball with the arrow favoring the shooting team immediately following an air ball and they didn't reset the shot clock.

[biz]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

There was also a held ball with the arrow favoring the shooting team immediately following an air ball and they didn't reset the shot clock.

Wow! I've never thought about that one. Team control ends on the shot attempt so it's not remaining with the team in control, therefore reset. Do I have it figured out right, Scrapper?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by biz

Wow! I've never thought about that one. Team control ends on the shot attempt so it's not remaining with the team in control, therefore reset. Do I have it figured out right, Scrapper?

Bingo! This was a test question for my D3 association several years in a row, so I have it down pat now.

[jalons]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Bingo! This was a test question for my D3 association several years in a row, so I have it down pat now.

So you are resetting the shot clock when an offensive rebound occurs on an air ball??

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

There was also a held ball with the arrow favoring the shooting team immediately following an air ball and they didn't reset the shot clock.

Why would you reset the shot clock?