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Old Fri Mar 27, 2009, 02:30pm
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Yeah, but you don't really, really think anything like that really ever happens, do you??? I mean, what kind of an assignor would that be?? And who would want to keep working for that assignor????
That would be an assignor who is a D1 ref and may very well be working a game today.

It is no coincidence that I'm posting this hypothetical situation now.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 05:26pm
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Tell me what you think of this hypothetical (wink) situation.

What if coaches had the power to block an official? Nothing out of the ordinary except coaches use it when an official handles business correctly. Of course, when this happens there is no investigation to see if the block is justified - the official is just blocked. Oh yeah, it isn't out of the ordinary for a coach to say "You will never come to my school again" during a game.

That is high school.

What if a coach could call the assigner and tell him he didn't want to see an official and when that happens enough the assigner fires the official because "I can't send you anywhere." Again, no investigation to see if it is justified.

Additionally, coaches say all kinds of things like "Hey, can you tell Joe to quit calling those p***y fouls" and no technical foul is given. Coaches ride officials on a nightly basis!

Tomegun:

In Ohio this is not a hypothetical. It is official policy. The coaches call the shots in the regular season and the post-season.

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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 05:53pm
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In Ohio this is not a hypothetical. It is official policy. The coaches call the shots in the regular season and the post-season.
We're only half as bad here in the Land of Steady habits. Coaches call the shots in the post season. However, with few exceptions, they select our best officials, according to our peer ratings, and rankings.
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Old Sun Mar 29, 2009, 08:58pm
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We're only half as bad here in the Land of Steady habits. Coaches call the shots in the post season. However, with few exceptions, they select our best officials, according to our peer ratings, and rankings.
I never got selected for a state final, BillyMac, so there's clearly still something wrong with the system.

(J/K - my board keeps getting a bunch of assignments, and everyone I know on the list is pretty damn good.)
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Old Tue Mar 31, 2009, 09:13am
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Tomegun:

In Ohio this is not a hypothetical. It is official policy. The coaches call the shots in the regular season and the post-season.

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MTD - I'm not totally convinced of this. In Cincy, its split. Some leagues coaches actually pick the staff. In other leagues, the assignor picks it but coaches have the ability to scratch a guy.

And still others, the assignor is the man, you get what you get.

Also, relative to the tourney, I think the new system put in 3 years ago includes more parties than just the coaches in determining who goes and who doesnt.
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Old Tue Mar 31, 2009, 09:21am
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I had a coach tell our assignor that he didn't want me anymore. I truly believe that he didn't want me because he couldn't intimidate me into making calls favorable to him. Also, I don't engage in idle chat with coaches, I just call the game.

The irony is that the coach got fired and I am still officiating.


I classify this as one of those "Consider the source" situations.

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