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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 09:01am
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losing team wants ref apology

T-M urges OHSAA to admit ref's error
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Based on the headline: Good grief.

After reading it, this quote says it all:
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"We have several students, parents, staff members and community members who believe the call at the end of the game was not the proper call," Principal Gerald Cox said, "and that it should not have been made given the particular circumstances — the end of the game; district final; score tied. They just felt that the foul was not blatant enough, flagrant enough.
There is so much wrong with this assessment, I don't need to see the play. I really hope the OHSAA comes out and says it was absolutely the right call.
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Looks like from the tape the defender missed the ball and hit the shooter on the arm...what about #4 waving his arms back and forth on both FT attempts.

Now could the Lead have passed on this call...high certainty foul in the last minutes of game...worst case scenerio we play an extra 4 mintues of basketball...you could make a case for this.

Apology...No!
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I didn't see any contact.

To others: From 0:00 - 4:30, it is just two teams trading baskets. Skip all that. Start at 4:30 into the video, with the game tied at 51 and 0:06.6 on the clock.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 09:13am
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Wow

First, horrible video!

Second, what an article and it's perspective!

Third, losing team got to the line twice for 2 shots with similar contact. The winning team is not whining about those calls.

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Looked at the replay...looks OK to me. Defender hit the shooters arm below the wrist. Easy to tell as the ball comes off the hand "funny" and almost missed the backboard.
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Based on the headline: Good grief.

After reading it, this quote says it all:

There is so much wrong with this assessment, I don't need to see the play. I really hope the OHSAA comes out and says it was absolutely the right call.
The OHSAA rep said, correctly, that Ohio explicitly disallows protests. Every issue in a game must be resolved by the officials on the floor. End of story.

Except for local media, which will continue to cover their little "protest rallies" and whatnot.
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Looked at the replay...looks OK to me. Defender hit the shooters arm below the wrist. Easy to tell as the ball comes off the hand "funny" and almost missed the backboard.
If he would have block the ball the ball would have gone a different direction than it did.
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From the article: "We have several students, parents, staff members and community members who believe the call at the end of the game was not the proper call," Principal Gerald Cox said, "and that it should not have been made given the particular circumstances — the end of the game; district final; score tied. They just felt that the foul was not blatant enough, flagrant enough.



The foul was not blatant/flagrant enough? It would have been okay at other points in the game? The particular circumstances?

I say a bunch of us should gather and throw rocks at this school.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 09:42am
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Here is the apology...

"I am sorry principal Cox that you are not qualified to accurately assess the quality of a an officiating crew's body of work. Kthanksbye"
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"i am sorry principal cox that you are not qualified to accurately assess the quality of a an officiating crew's body of work. kthanksbye"
:d:d too funny!
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 09:46am
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I didn't see any contact.

To others: From 0:00 - 4:30, it is just two teams trading baskets. Skip all that. Start at 4:30 into the video, with the game tied at 51 and 0:06.6 on the clock.
No contact? look again. Sure looks like it to me, he clearly doesn't get any part of the ball yet the shot(10 footer) is grossly off.

Great call, and the right one.

I originally thought the disputed call was the block foul on black jersey team, I'm assuming they were in the double bonus.

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The worst part, to me, is that instead of being able to use this loss as a good lesson; the adults who are in charge are blaming a referee. No, the kids aren't responsible for actually fouling the shooter or not making layups; it's all the ref's fault.

Educational Malpractice.
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I'm glad the principal told us that wasn't a flagrant foul. I was pretty torn on the issue.
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I'm glad the principal told us that wasn't a flagrant foul. I was pretty torn on the issue.
Nah, he said it wasn't "flagrant enough." Whatever the F*** that means.
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