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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 01:25pm
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Spot Throw In Violation - PSU v GM NIT
Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 01:35pm
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Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?
Didn't see it and it's hard to give an opinion without video.

I saw a D1 official call this as a traveling violation late this season. Fans and commentators always think it's a travel, and they don't think you can move your feet at all other than pivoting on a pivot foot.
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I did not see the play and it is possible that there was a missed call. The great thing about officiating is that we can TiVO things and get a different look the official got at the time. No official is perfect, even at the D1 level.

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that is from a book.- wrong once" maybe not the exact line but does anyone know what it is? at least the book i'm thinking of. popular too. I started to read it just a short while ago.
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I did not see the play and it is possible that there was a missed call. The great thing about officiating is that we can TiVO things and get a different look the official got at the time. No official is perfect, even at the D1 level.

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Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?
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Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?
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Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?
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Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?
I only saw live and did not see any other angles. It looked like the throw in was from the middle of the lane, therefore a violation. Ref and players made it hard to see.
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Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?
The 3 foot spot is not that big. It's not three feet in each direction, it's three feet total; 1.5 feet in each direction. I haven't seen the play, so I can't say what I think it was, but there is not a lot of room for lateral movement on a spot throwin.
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Possible Nine Foot Wide Designated Spot ???
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He actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot, which would not be a violation.
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The 3 foot spot is not that big. It's not three feet in each direction, it's three feet total; 1.5 feet in each direction. I haven't seen the play, so I can't say what I think it was, but there is not a lot of room for lateral movement on a spot throwin.
Snaqwells: Sorry, but I beg to differ. The designated "spot" is three feet wide. He can move as much as he wants within that "spot", also, the inbounder is only required to have one foot over that three foot wide "spot". If he's on the left side of that "spot", he can take one step to the left, still keeping his right foot over the designated "spot". If he's over on the right side of that "spot", he can take one step to the right, still keeping his left foot over the designated "spot". Remember, the "spot" itself is three feet wide. If the player is tall enough, he can probably step at least three feet to the left, and three feet to the right, for a total of nine feet, without violating, as long as this is completed in less than five seconds.
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well anyways the first time i saw the wrong once, but i was mistaken quote was from The Monkey Wrench Gang by Edward Abbey
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