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CallMeMrRef Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:25pm

Spot Throw In Violation - PSU v GM NIT
 
Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?

zm1283 Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 589381)
Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?

Didn't see it and it's hard to give an opinion without video.

I saw a D1 official call this as a traveling violation late this season. Fans and commentators always think it's a travel, and they don't think you can move your feet at all other than pivoting on a pivot foot.

JRutledge Wed Mar 18, 2009 01:38pm

I did not see the play and it is possible that there was a missed call. The great thing about officiating is that we can TiVO things and get a different look the official got at the time. No official is perfect, even at the D1 level.

Peace

dbking Wed Mar 18, 2009 02:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 589381)
Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?

I only saw live and did not see any other angles. It looked like the throw in was from the middle of the lane, therefore a violation. Ref and players made it hard to see.

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 18, 2009 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 589388)
No official is perfect.

You're right - even I'm not perfect. I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong! :rolleyes:

mutantducky Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:50am

that is from a book.- wrong once" maybe not the exact line but does anyone know what it is? at least the book i'm thinking of. popular too. I started to read it just a short while ago.
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zm1283 Thu Mar 19, 2009 01:11am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 589407)
You're right - even I'm not perfect. I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong! :rolleyes:

I have a shirt with that on it.

Adam Thu Mar 19, 2009 09:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 589388)
I did not see the play and it is possible that there was a missed call. The great thing about officiating is that we can TiVO things and get a different look the official got at the time. No official is perfect, even at the D1 level.

Peace

Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?

Adam Thu Mar 19, 2009 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 589381)
Did anyone catch the NIT game last night and see the violation called with less than a minute left? I was watching in a bar with no sound, but closed caption and could see that the commentators were saying something about the number of steps the thrower took out of bounds as if to say that what happened was a travelling violation.

The referee clearly signalled a line violation for moving, but from the quick replay I saw, it looked like although he may have taken quite a few steps, he actually may have maintained one foot on or over the 3 foot throw in spot - which would not be a violation.

Anybody else see this or have a comment?

The 3 foot spot is not that big. It's not three feet in each direction, it's three feet total; 1.5 feet in each direction. I haven't seen the play, so I can't say what I think it was, but there is not a lot of room for lateral movement on a spot throwin.

M&M Guy Thu Mar 19, 2009 09:54am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 589579)
Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?

Cheer up.

There are plenty of windmills still out there.

Adam Thu Mar 19, 2009 09:59am

There you go again. I would report you to the mods if they gave a crap.

JRutledge Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 589579)
Wait a second, Rut. I thought you always refused to admit officials could make a mistake. I'm so confused. My world is crashing down. What do I do now?

As they used to say..."That is what you get for thinking."

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:18am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 589587)
As they used to say..."That is what you get for thinking."

Peace

It normally serves me well. :)

mbyron Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:48am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 589594)
It normally serves me well. :)

Serves you what? :confused:

M&M Guy Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:51am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 589611)
Serves you what? :confused:

Well.

Y'know, that's a deep subject.


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