Pass Or Try

[ILMalti]

Good day all

A1 releases ball towards the basket. Ball hits side of rectangular backboard and bounces back towards A1.
A1 catches the ball and starts a dribble towards basket.

Play is let to continue. Coach yells "travell" ; hence this question

So 2 situations are possible here

if A1 was shooting for a basket : No call (since TC ends (4.12.3.a))
if A1 was passing the ball via a lob : violation (TC still 4.12.2b)

If the above 2 statements are correct, would the call be based upon the official discretion and playing experience?

and if my speculations are wrong couls someone explain why (rule reference will help me too)

Thank you

[JugglingReferee]

I'm likely ruling a try in each case. If a pass is so poor that it hits the side of the backboard, then it's just as easy a poor shot too.

[Adam]

I am always ruling this a try. If it hits the backboard, it's a try in my book.

[shishstripes]

What rule says you can't throw the ball off your own backboard? Does it really matter if its a throw or a try?

The only rule I know about throwing the ball off a backboard deals with the opponent's backboard. If you throw it off an opponent's backboard it's the same as it hitting the floor. So the possibility of the player lifting their pivot foot before starting a dribble or a double dribble violation are in play. The same conditions do not apply to your team's backboard.

Watching a regional tournament in Nome, AK, a girl dribbled and threw the ball at the opponent's basket three times. Each time hitting the backboard. Should have been a dribbling violation. The third attempt ended up scoring for the opponent, but should never have counted because it should have been ruled a double dribble.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ILMalti

Good day all

A1 releases ball towards the basket. Ball hits side of rectangular backboard and bounces back towards A1.
A1 catches the ball and starts a dribble towards basket.

Play is let to continue. Coach yells "travell" ; hence this question

So 2 situations are possible here

if A1 was shooting for a basket : No call (since TC ends (4.12.3.a))
if A1 was passing the ball via a lob : violation (TC still 4.12.2b)

If the above 2 statements are correct, would the call be based upon the official discretion and playing experience?

and if my speculations are wrong couls someone explain why (rule reference will help me too)

Thank you

Read the definition of a pass. There's no such thing as a pass to one's self. A pass is, by definition, to a teammate.

A player can ALWAYS throw the ball off his own backboard and catch it or recover it. It's nothing, perfectly legal.

[ILMalti]

A player can ALWAYS throw the ball off his own backboard and catch it or recover it. It's nothing, perfectly legal.[/QUOTE]

If a player throws the ball off their own backboard why would TC end unless it is a try? and if this is the case why does it matter what backboard teh ball is bounce off?

reference : 4:31(Pass); 4.12( control, player,team); 6.7 (dead ball)

Thanks

[Adam]

You've got the right reference. The point is, if it hits the backboard, it's universally considered a try. If it does not hit the backboard, judgment is required.

This is why it's legal for a player to throw it off the backboard then catch and dunk the ball.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by ILMalti

Coach yells "travell"

You T the coach up for yelling "travel" with an extra "l".

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ILMalti

If a player throws the ball off their own backboard why would TC end unless it is a try? and if this is the case why does it matter what backboard the ball is bounce off?

reference : 4:31(Pass); 4.12( control, player,team); 6.7 (dead ball)

Thanks

The rules specifically state that throwing the ball off the opponent's backboard is considered the same as a dribble. There is no such restriction on their own backboard.

Traveling occurs when a player moves his feet outside prescribed limits while HOLDING the ball, If I throw the ball off my backboard, I'm not longer holding it, am I? Therefore, I can run all I want and I can retrieve the ball. It's not traveling and it's not an illegal dribble.

Unless the rules state something is illegal, it's not. There's no rule that prevents a player from throwing the ball off his own backboard. Therefore, it is legal.

[ILMalti]

Appreciate the explanations...Thank you