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Well I know we do have modifications, and I know them as well, but there are several rules I just want to clear up. Such as, would you call a double-foul on a Charge/Block situation if you couldn't determine which was committed?
Oh and I double-checked, were operating under the " National Federation of State High School Athletic Associations". I can probably google the rulebook |
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No. One official should call one foul or the other foul. Never call both.
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Shaq, that was actually really helpful thank you. In regards to the "legal guarding position", what exactly does that constitute? Watching youtube videos, i've seen players get called with the charge when the defender was set, but moved slightly sideways into the shooter.
Your right though about coaches and those calls at this level. Also, let me make sure I have this right. You call an "illegal screen", when a player who is set into a screen moves to impeed the path of an offensive player with or without the ball correct? If its a "blind screen", then no foul is called. Now if an offensive player screens and a defensive player runs over him, this is a charge correct? Would an illegal screen mechanic be the same for a block? I just have these few situational questions so thanks for your input |
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Again, I highly recommend getting a rule book. Rule 4 is where you should start, Definitions. That said, LGP is gained when a defender has two feet on the floor facing his opponent. Note, there's no time requirement, nor is there a requirement that he be stationary to gain LGP. Once LGP is gained, it may be maintained by moving sideways or backwards as long as the player is not moving into the offensive player when contact occurs.
I wouldn't call it an "illegal screen." Call it a block or a push or (maybe) a hold. Defending a player with the ball is different than a player without the ball. On ball defenders have more rights than off ball, as far as movement is concerned. Off ball, screening principals apply to both sides. On ball, the defender does not need to provide time or distance as long as he is either in LGP or stationary. Blind screens off ball must provide time and distance (no more than 1 step) or the screener can be called for a foul. If a blind screen has provided sufficient distance, then the contact may be severe without a foul so long as the screened player attempts to stop upon contact. You are correct, running through a screen is a charging foul. There is no "illegal screen" mechanic. It's a foul, either blocking, pushing, charging, or holding. Is the mechanic that fits the nature of the foul. If you verbalize it when you report, don't say "illegal screen."
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I wouldn't think so, but I keep hearing the term "blarge" in reference to it. Like this video here: YouTube - Block Charge Play Seems like an obvious charging to me as the player was in a LGP, but no call?
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what about calling a travel or 3s
Hey guys
thanks for the awesome tips. I am a new referee as well. i wonder if I am in doubt wether to call a charge or a block could I call a travel just for the sake of calling something? thanks
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Yeah, I wouldn't "make up" a call just to have something since you are unsure of what you have, it will get you into more trouble than if you got the call wrong.
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