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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 12:01pm
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Did they actually call a blarge? Floyd was upset because the C came in with a block signal, but was he mad because the only called a charge or because they went with a blarge? The officials on the court may not have even known what he was upset about because of how out of control he was.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 12:06pm
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Did they actually call a blarge? Floyd was upset because the C came in with a block signal, but was he mad because the only called a charge or because they went with a blarge? The officials on the court may not have even known what he was upset about because of how out of control he was.
The C did not signal a block at any time....if you feel he did, watch the video again....
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 12:11pm
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The C did not signal a block at any time....if you feel he did, watch the video again....
Exactly. If I had to guess, it's what he was getting ready to do, but he didn't.

And I also agree with the call. It was tough and close, but contact came before the offensive player was airborne, and the defender was sliding laterally or even a little backwards. Contact was in the torso.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 12:16pm
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I also agree that Floyd is a punk.
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I also agree that Floyd is a punk.
You're only saying that because he took it the Hawks every year when he was at the good school.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 01:05pm
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You're only saying that because he took it the Hawks every year when he was at the good school.
Nah, I'm saying that because his protoge did the same thing with ISU after Floyd was "coaching" the Bulls. Remember Michigan State?

BTW, I figured this one would bring you out of hiding.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 01:10pm
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Nah, I'm saying that because his protoge did the same thing with ISU after Floyd was "coaching" the Bulls. Remember Michigan State?

BTW, I figured this one would bring you out of hiding.
Of course this one gets me around. I do not remember Michigan State. That game never happened. If the game that never happened is replayed on ESPN Classic, I turn off the tv. Why watch a game that never happened.
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Block or charge, doesn't matter. Why in the world do coaches need to go ape**** on one simple call. Can't really make out time and score, but it appears to be relatively close. It would be nice to have your head coach on the bench down the stretch wouldn't it? As it was ASU gets four free throws, game over.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 12:18pm
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The L anticipated the call. He's two steps onto the floor before the defender even hits the ground. I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.

Even so, Floyd's an idiot. The Pac-10 needs to sit him down a game.
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I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.
Is sliding laterally against the rules when the player isn't airborne?
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Is sliding laterally against the rules when the player isn't airborne?
He can slide but he still has to get to the spot first and he didn't in my opinion.
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Cool. I operate from the "if contact is in the torso, he got there first" in situations like this.

If the offensive player is airborne, there's the added element of when did he get there, but that's not applicable in this case.
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Is sliding laterally against the rules when the player isn't airborne?
yes it is illegal if he has yet to establish guarding position and then come in sliding and didn't beat the offensive player to the spot.

Badnewsref,

I would disagree with you in the mechanics of this play. The lead has the best look at the secondary defender and can better assess the lateral movement of the defender than the slot, although i still believe the referee got the play wrong.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 01:48pm
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yes it is illegal if he has yet to establish guarding position and then come in sliding and didn't beat the offensive player to the spot.
I guess we're seeing different things, then, because the defender definitely faced the offensive player with both feet on the ground (establishing LGP) and IMO definitely beat the offensive player to the spot.
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LOL

The guard who fouled on the play had this to say:

"He's a great basketball coach, and he had all the right to do that. I thought it was a bogus call, he thought it was a bogus call, a lot of people thought the same."
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