Block/Charge call results in Floyd being ejected

[jdw3018]

Curious everyone's thoughts. It's about a 2:00 clip, and we don't get a replay until the end.

Looks like C may be getting ready to call a block when L comes hard with the PC.

Thoughts?

[hugheske44]

I think it was a block...~~~

[zm1283]

Did they actually call a blarge? Floyd was upset because the C came in with a block signal, but was he mad because the only called a charge or because they went with a blarge? The officials on the court may not have even known what he was upset about because of how out of control he was.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Did they actually call a blarge? Floyd was upset because the C came in with a block signal, but was he mad because the only called a charge or because they went with a blarge? The officials on the court may not have even known what he was upset about because of how out of control he was.

The C did not signal a block at any time....if you feel he did, watch the video again....

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

The C did not signal a block at any time....if you feel he did, watch the video again....

Exactly. If I had to guess, it's what he was getting ready to do, but he didn't.

And I also agree with the call. It was tough and close, but contact came before the offensive player was airborne, and the defender was sliding laterally or even a little backwards. Contact was in the torso.

[Adam]

I also agree that Floyd is a punk.

[eyezen]

Block or charge, doesn't matter. Why in the world do coaches need to go ape**** on one simple call. Can't really make out time and score, but it appears to be relatively close. It would be nice to have your head coach on the bench down the stretch wouldn't it? As it was ASU gets four free throws, game over.

[BktBallRef]

The L anticipated the call. He's two steps onto the floor before the defender even hits the ground. I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.

Even so, Floyd's an idiot. The Pac-10 needs to sit him down a game.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.

Is sliding laterally against the rules when the player isn't airborne?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The L anticipated the call. He's two steps onto the floor before the defender even hits the ground. I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.

Even so, Floyd's an idiot. The Pac-10 needs to sit him down a game.

I saw the same thing you did. Additionally the Lead was not in a great position to see the secondary defender. The C had the best look at this play but did a great job withholding his preliminary.

At worst it was a missed call. Don't see why Floyd exploded like he did.

[jeffpea]

Tim Floyd is a PUNK!!!! I only watch USC games to watch Floyd go nuts AFTER he thinks he team has lost it's chance to win.....then he blames the officials and gets wacked...Saw this game live and was waiting for the "Floyd Eruption"....

It was a good double whistle in a block/charge situtation and the officials did EXACTLY what they should.....lead takes the call; outside officials (in this case C) blow and hold w/ a fist.

btw, I agreed w/ the charge. Good call and Tim Floyd makes the officiating a storyline of the game when it should not have been.

[Adam]

You have no idea what the C was going to call; great job by the officials. I also think it's a great charge. Defender was there just in time, before the dribbler went airborne.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Curious everyone's thoughts. It's about a 2:00 clip, and we don't get a replay until the end.

Looks like C may be getting ready to call a block when L comes hard with the PC.

Thoughts?

The call did not result in Floyd's ejection. His response to a close play and idiot behavior is what got him tossed. Whether or not it was a good call is irrelevant. If you watched the end of the UCLA-ASU game, the official called a pc on Collison when it should have been a block and a good basket, putting UCLA up by one and the nation's leading FT shooter at the line. Did you see him react like Hackett or Howland get tossed? Adult behavior is recommended here.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by refguy

The call did not result in Floyd's ejection. His response to a close play and idiot behavior is what got him tossed.

Excellent point - much more appropriately worded than my original post.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Tim Floyd is an IDIOT!

A charging foul was the correct call. Who had the primary call is difficult one because the drive started in the T's primary, the secondary defender, who drew the charge, moved into a LGP from the C's primary, and the foul occured right smack in the geometric center of the free throw lane.

Based upon the location of the other players on the court I doubt if the T could see the secondary defender move into a LGP and therefore should not have a whistle on this play. The play has to be covered by the C and the L, and I really do not see how anything but a charge could be called by either the C or the L. The C never signaled what type of foul, but as an evaluator, I would want the C to make the final call on this play and not the L.

MTD, Sr.