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He has total player control ........he's in the semi circle, can sit on it, do a hand stand, dribble it with two hands, it's his little world for 10 seconds as long as he stays 'home'
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I was assuming the ball left the semi-circle.
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Yes in my original question, the ball is lost outside of the semi-circle, I realize they can do whatever they want with the ball in the circle.
The player has limited options on what to do once they lose the ball, go chase the ball--violation, let the 10 seconds expire--violation, call time out---violation??? My partner just said he may have seen it in Referee magazine, not the case book. I told him I cant find it specifically in the case book. Or possibly it couldve been in an older casebook since they do change them every so often?~~~ |
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As others have noted, there is a new casebook ruling this season which states that the free-thrower violates if he loses the ball in a manner such that he cannot regain control of it without leaving the semi-circle. |
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So the answer to the original question is, "No. The coach can't 'buy out' of a violation." Not even an arcane, little-understood violation such as this one.
So the appropriate sequence would be: ref bounces ball to shooter shooter catches, adjusts feet, dribbles, bounce it away coach yells, "Time Out!!" ref whistles, signals violation ref turns to coach and asks, "Do you still want the TO?" Is that correct? |
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(Assuming you left out the part where the official voices how many shots are left, since that part of the situation was understood.)
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How about if defender gives player the ball back ?
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A free-throw violation shall be called immediately when the free thrower looses/deflects the ball out of the semi circle.
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I have maintained that if the ball is somewhere that the player is allowed, then it's at his disposal. So anywhere behind the end line is ok in this case. |
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That's a. Look at b.
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That's it, thanks. I was looking at last year's case book, which is slightly different. Last year's said he just dropped it after having it, and both situations called for a re-set.
This year's says to call the violation if he dribbles it off his foot into the lane. At first glance, I don't like this case play. However, all the defense would have to do to ensure the violation is grab the ball and toss it OOB; even if they had to step in the lane to intercept a pass from an offensive player in his lane space, a double violation on a free throw penalizes the offense rather than the defense.
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*9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)
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