Dribbling situations

[imagomer]

jdmara opened with

"Sit 1: A1 is dribbling down the court pushing the tempo of the game, he looks up to view the layout of the players up-court and looses track of the ball. The ball bounces over his head, returns to the floor untouched, bounces again, and A1 then continues his dribble."



What if dribbler had lost track of a high dribble and reached up an "put a lid on the dribble" at a height of about 5 feet and kept his hand on the ball as the ball rose to a height of 7 feet (or as high as the dribbler could reach)?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by imagomer

What if dribbler had lost track of a high dribble and reached up an "put a lid on the dribble" at a height of about 5 feet and kept his hand on the ball as the ball rose to a height of 7 feet (or as high as the dribbler could reach)?

What if he does??? Did the ball come to rest in his hand? Was the palm of the hand turned up toward the ceiling? Those high dribbles always cause people to yell and scream, but very rarely is there any violation to call.

[imagomer]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

What if he does??? Did the ball come to rest in his hand? Was the palm of the hand turned up toward the ceiling? Those high dribbles always cause people to yell and scream, but very rarely is there any violation to call.

My point exactly - I have had this called as a "carry" in at least 6 of my games this year. I think it's often a case of an official blowing because it was ugly, or he or she may just not know the rule . . . I'm at a small school and we seem to be a training ground.

[gslefeb]

Why isn't the slap considered a dribble?

I've read MTD's reponse:

"A player must have established player control before said player can start to dribble the ball."

Example: If A1 passes to A2. A2 does not catch the ball, but slaps it to the floor. I would consider that a start of a dribble. Is that not correct?

Or is the term "slap" what I'm missing? By "slap" there is no control. While a controlled push to the floor indicates the start of the dribble?

[mbyron]

Weird moves:

By the opponent: must be some kind of violation!

By fan's team: mad ball skills!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

Why isn't the slap considered a dribble?

I've read MTD's reponse:

"A player must have established player control before said player can start to dribble the ball."

Example: If A1 passes to A2. A2 does not catch the ball, but slaps it to the floor. I would consider that a start of a dribble. Is that not correct?

Or is the term "slap" what I'm missing? By "slap" there is no control. While a controlled push to the floor indicates the start of the dribble?

"Slap" is not defined.

You need to decide whether it's a fumble or a controlled move to be a dribble.

87.6% of the time on the pass, it's a fumble.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"Slap" is not defined.

You need to decide whether it's a fumble or a controlled move to be a dribble.

87.6% of the time on the pass, it's a fumble.

I agree with you, except I think it's more like 87.9%. The question becomes what if the player "slaps" the ball multiple times to gain control, is this considered a dribble? Of course it's opinion. But I am more apt to call it a dribble if it takes more than one to control the ball (at least at the varsity level)

-Josh

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

87.6% of the time ...

May I see your raw data please? And what's your margin of error?