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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 02:36pm
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My sit. was A1 dives on a loose ball, he lands on it chest first and is unable to get it with his hands. Momenum rools him across the top of the ball causing it to come to rest between his leggs, with him now on the floor on his chest. What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 02:40pm
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What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.
Immediately release the ball.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 02:58pm
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Just an observation about all the situations saying the ball gets lodged between the legs. If im doing a game and a ball gets lodged in any part of a players body, I'm getting another ball to throw at it hoping to dislodge it.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:10pm
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Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:14pm
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Just an observation about all the situations saying the ball gets lodged between the legs. If im doing a game and a ball gets lodged in any part of a players body, I'm getting another ball to throw at it hoping to dislodge it.
OK. Milk just came out my nose. I love it when a good sit becomes foder for the masses.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:36pm
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Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him?
If you're in Hackensack, it sure is!!
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:53pm
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Reading everyone's posts regarding this, I think there's a misunderstanding. This OP isn't clear, but I'm going to guess the question is regarding player control for the purpose of calling timeout. But I'll wait for the OP poster to come back and clarify his post.

Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:57pm
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Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.
You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 06:21pm
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You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.
... and bemuse?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 06:44pm
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... and bemuse?
Lest we forget to diffuse this ruse?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 08:22pm
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My sit. was A1 dives on a loose ball, he lands on it chest first and is unable to get it with his hands. Momenum rools him across the top of the ball causing it to come to rest between his leggs, with him now on the floor on his chest. What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.
eject him for making a travesty of the game
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 11:42pm
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This is another example of where the NCAA rules are clearer and better than NFHS rules, in my not-so-humble opinion. The game is not meant to be played (as I now put myself in the omnipotent position of the creator and all-knower of basketball) by intentionally contacting the ball with a leg, just like the game is not meant to be played by people laying or rolling around on the ground (wheelchairs excepted) - both clearly defined as illegal in NCAA, but legal (laying on the ground and causing a legally moving player to trip and go down) or ambiguous (leg vice not clearly equaling a kicking violation) in NFHS.

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Old Tue Jan 27, 2009, 01:00am
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Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him?
I am picturing someone gently holding a baby.....Is that person striking the baby????
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2009, 01:34am
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Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him?
If he's lucky.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2009, 01:39am
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To have player control, one of the criteria is to be "holding" the ball. It does not say with the hands. Question? Can you "hold" the ball with your leggs?
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