First Time Ever - T to start game

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

Some of the bigger schools around here do, and especially during tournaments.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

All of them around here do.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

Not just 8 minutes for JV but also for Freshmen in SoCal.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

JV boys & JV girls.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

What do you play around there?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

8 minutes around here, too.
And while I might give them an extra minute or so, if he changes starters right before tip, that's an easy call.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In Ranjo's world JV basketball is very well organized and they are expected to follow the same rules as varsity. The VHSL does however allow an exception for the "home team must wear white" rule.

And when a coach changes his starters after the 10 minute mark we are now suppose to let it go if he is doing it to "send his team a message"?

Why do you believe that the VHSL needs to make an exception for the non-white jerseys at the JV level?

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why do you believe that the VHSL needs to make an exception for the non-white jerseys at the JV level?

The reason given is that the JV teams usually get the hand-me-down uniforms from the varsity teams, so some leaway is given until the next cycle of new uniforms are ordered for the varsity.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ranjo

The reason given is that the JV teams usually get the hand-me-down uniforms from the varsity teams, so some leaway is given until the next cycle of new uniforms are ordered for the varsity.

I understand that. However, you are missing my point. Does the state of VA or the VHSL as a league have their own rule that sub-varsity programs must wear white at home? Where is the rule coming from that needs an exception? It isn't the NFHS.

[dbking]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Are you sure this is how you want to handle a JV game? I am a by the book kind of guy but this seems excessive to me. Especially if the coach wants to change starters to send a message to his team.

Varsity game I am all over this and access the T. Sub-varsity I am asking coach what's up?

In my part of the world sub-varsity is about getting kids on the court. Often there are different uniforms, possibly 2 number 5's etc. As long as the coach explains what is happening there should be a little slack.

I am not saying that I would pass on playing rules, etc but fashion police can take a back seat for common sense.

Besides what advantage did the coach gain?

I am with Blue, below varsity, almost anything goes with all of the pregame house keeping rules. I am happy if we have a scorekeeper and clock operator that knows what they are doing and not texting.

[refnrev]

[QUOTE=ranjo;569925]Happened in a JV boys game last night -

JV game I'm not starting with the T. Let them fix it quickly and let it go. V game, nail him, but that's just me.

[Scratch85]

[QUOTE=refnrev;570090]

Originally Posted by ranjo

Happened in a JV boys game last night -

JV game I'm not starting with the T. Let them fix it quickly and let it go. V game, nail him, but that's just me.

I try to treat JV games just like I do V games. Below that, I make a few exceptions. 99% of JV games are right before the V game, with V coaches on the bench and some players who will be participatiing in both games. I do not want to send mixed messages.

I also believe that intentionally not applying rules is a great way to forget how to apply those rules.

[dan74]

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by dan74

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

You use the proper mechanic which is to take the stuffed dummy of the coach and brand a "T" on its forehead. You then string the dummy up by throwing a rope over the rear support behind that team's basket. Then report it to the table in pig-latin.

Then you try to find your meds.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dan74

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

I had a kid hang on the rim in pre-game Saturday night. I escorted him to his coach and made him explain why we would be starting with a T. Then, I (we) made sure the books had it right and knew when and how to set the arrow, etc., and told the opposing coach that his team would start with FTs.

The announcer announced, "We're starting the game with FTs due to a technical foul on xxxx team during the pre-game."

On we went.